• calmdragoon@alien.topB
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    I feel even if Messi called a brazilian “mono”, people here would defend it, just pathetic and vile

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    Lol the Messi cockriding on here is insane.

    He’s the best player of all time. He’s not a saint as much as some of you act like it.

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      Rodrygo called Messi a “coward” for standing up to his people. Yet calling him out for being wrong means cockriding Messi? Are you really that fucking dumb?

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      This sub loves to meat ride Messi , 🤓 my goat can do no wrong 😎😎 it’s the Uruguayan that made Messi choke him 🤬 for disrespecting the 🐐

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      This is the first time i see the word “Messi” without a “deserves a red card for being alive” in every comment but ok

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      From defending cops that like beating women with babies you can’t come back

      What a disgusting person

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      What should he have done when the police started beating Argentine fans and the Brazilian players not only didn’t help the Argentine players try to calm down the police but mocked them for it?

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        He could do the same thing he does when Argentinians are racist towards Brazilians and other nations, nothing lol

        Cry me a river, Argentinians are the worst fans of all in SA, they were fighting brazilians before the cops came in.

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          Rich coming from a Brazilian huh, away fans can’t even place a foot in Rio without getting beaten or robbed lmao

          Rodrygo and co could do the same thing btw

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            The city is dangerous and your fans are racist and agressive, both can be true.

            Your argument means nothing, at least I know Rio is dangerous, but people dont rob you beacuse of your nationality, they just rob lol

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              I am sure targeting those who speak Spanish or wear a specific football shirt was just coincidence lol. Your fans are prominently violent too, the city may be dangerous but i remind you attacks in Copacabana were lead by fans (if u want to call them that btw).

              Also Brazilians on twitter celebrating the stolen stuff as if they were “trophies” or justifying police brutality… no seas caradura jaja

              • Marcelosouzadearaujo@alien.topB
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                Well, that is the reason I moved out of Rio. The city is terribly dangerous, but I think anyone can get it.

                This time it were the Boca fans, but most times its American tourists and of course the citizens of the city.

                If Rio was not dangerous it would be the best city in the world lol

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              Basically, the city is a shithole thus no football matches should be played and the city should be banned from NT matches atleast until the world cup

              There is no security for any fan that goes there so it should not be allowed to be a place for a event

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      How the post is formulated is funny. Rodrygo’s father ATTACKS Messi. ATTACKS if this is an attack what Messi has done last few games is a crime. Messi dickriding is real here.

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      What do u mean by saint? Rodrygo called them cowards because didnt want to play because of brazilian power abuse… u wanted messi to shut up? lol

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        I mean he consistently shuts up and plays when Argentina racially abuses him…. It’s not right to defend the Brazilian police but idk how people are overlooking that important fact in whatever this mess is.

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    So fans are getting beat up on the stands, Argentinian players make a stance and leave the field and get called cowards by the likes of Rodrygo and somehow Messi is the villain for calling him up.

    Thiee new Brazilian players are extremly unlikable

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      Are all these suddenly ~20 year old millionaires unlikeable? Well I’ll be…

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      Petulant prima donnas who were raised on the stories of Brazilian footballing supremacy and didn’t put in the work to maintain the legacy. The mighty have fallen and they’re just a shadow of their former selves now.

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      It’s funny, I don’t know if it was here at the beginning of the post or some other thread but godDAMN were quick to shit on Messi following this. So many people being like “he’s a cunt” “despicable human being” “I always knew he was horrible.”

      Like what?! Some people just love to hop on any bandwagon

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      He is saying that Messi is not the saint that he is treated as being as him grabbing the neck of two opositors clearly shows, which is true. I don’t see how Rodrygo doing what is pretty regular shit talking makes him unlikable either

    • Marcelosouzadearaujo@alien.topB
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      You know that Argentina was beating the shit out of us the whole match like they always do.

      And Messi is always portraid as this nice guy but people who watch the matches know that he is not that nice.

      Argentinians are the worst out of all the south american teams to face because they hit you and them pretend that nothing happens.

      We, from South America know how these guys behave on and off the pitch.

      As for the police beating up argentinians, its terrible but they beat brazilians much worse, its Brazil nothing to do with beating up other fans.

      And remember, there were several fights between both sides before the police did anything.

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      lol, Messi is clearly grabbing a throat in the picture. This is not professional, however you look at it. And I’ve seen him do it more than once. So stop protecting him like he is your god and can do no harm.

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      They are both on the wrong here and anyone who can’t see that is seriously biased.

      Rodrygo should see what is going on in the stands. You can blame his age for being naive but at the end of the day what he said was wrong. A football game is never bigger than real situations going around. Its the same situation with Vini getting racially abused. No player should be complaining if the match is paused. He’s being a shitty human being here.

      On the other hand, Messi is fucking 36 year old and the way he grabs people is stupid and should be facing a couple of games suspension. And it’s also up to him as the senior player and leader on the pitch to explain to someone ~15 years younger about the situation and how he should be acting.

      The fact that Messi was even talking about how he’s the champion and how he won it there should show anyone that he is acting like a baby. He’s supposed to be a captain but his actions on the pitch looked like a school bully especially with De Paul being his bodyguard waiting to jerk him off the first second he got.

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      School ground stuff by Brazil. Everything always loses context in the noise and media starts just picking on high profile players for sensationalism.

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      I am not sure what his dad is trying to do here at all. Surely he is defending his son, but this was just one of the many arguments between players that happen every game or so.

      I mean you could make a poor argument for Rodrygo that he might have not realise how terrible the cops were acting at that time, but after the game there is no way his father didn’t see bleeding and comatose fans leaving the stadium on stretchers.

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        he is trying to defend his son, he is going to get traction, the brazilian football fans are obviously united, and will give support.

        This whole situation is not that surprising, but it sure is good shit to watch.

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        He could have thought that there is also the chance that the police are protecting another group of fans from hooligans ie it is fair.
        Also players shouldn’t leave the pitch without the consent of the ref.

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      As a brazilian Rodrygo should have kept his mouth shut. When Messi said “How are we cowards if we just won the world cup?”. Rodrygo should have said “Congrats in winning the WC, Messi, now your NT has the same number of WCs as Pelé”. Can’t even trash talk properly ffs.

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    Yet another reason why you should keep your parents from social media, especially if you’re a famous person.

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    I almost yelled at my dad when I was a kid for annoying me while I was trying to play, I don’t know how professionals allow their family members to comment on things like this

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    Am I crazy or does this situation feel incredibly overblown? At the end of the day, it was two players talking shit, and it seems like people are making it out like some incredibly violent interaction occurred.

    Also, maybe people in this sub haven’t gotten over the Messi vs Ronaldo bullshit, but it was Rodrygo talking shit after the Argentinian national team to their credit tried deescalating the situation. Then they lost the fucking game to Argentina. I fail to see how this situation is embarrassing to Messi in any way. Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher, his response seems pretty normal in comparison to other players

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      Tbf I do think that anyone not named messi would have gotten a straight red for putting their hands around another player’s neck like that

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      Of course it is, Brazil are embarrassed and need to deflect from their recent results. They aren’t the Brazil of old but carry themselves with the attitude.

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      This doesn’t even get talked about the next day if it was the 90s or 2000s. But the drama monsters must feed.

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      Oh yeah rodrygo suffered racism from half the argentinian population and it is just overblown

      cmon just because it is messi you guys are going to ignore what is happening here?

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          he is conivent, he never speaks agains racism, even when his country always does this shit

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            No excusing it, but all players are convenient when speaking against racism. I mean, I didn’t see Rodrygo or Vini criticizing their own supporters when they were racist towards Araujo…

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        By your logic Rodrygo is to blame for the Police brutality that Argentina fans suffer everytime they go to Brasil lol

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        I mean that had nothing to do with Messi though? Messi didn’t make any racist comments, Messi didn’t ask people to be racist, Messi stood up for his team that’s it… What the rest of Argentina does isn’t his responsibility right? Why would you blame the captain of the football team for the country to be racist? As for Messi himself I’m pretty sure him and Neymar were as close as brothers, clearly not something you’d see a racist do

        And Rodrygo literally started this cause Messi went onto lead his team in protest against their people being beaten up? Did you even see the bleeding guy’s images?

        Those racist comments are wrong on so many different levels, but that is not Messi’s fault, in the issue between Rodrygo and Messi, any non biased guy knows it was just Rodrygo being a brat

        A 19 year old tennis player or NBA player simply cannot go talk shit to Federer/ LeBron, that’s just being a dick to a legend

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        Did you visit the Real Madrid sub recently? Rodrigo getting racial comments has nothing to do with Messi yet everyone is talking shit about messi there, it’s like they couldn’t care less about Rodrigo they just got a reason to hate on messi again. Racism - bad. Rodrigo calling the argentine team “cowards” because they refused to play while the police were beating their fans in the stands - also bad. Both can be bad, no one is justifying racism nor is anyone saying he deserves it

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          it has to do with messi, he is conivent with the racism of his countrymen by never speaking agains it

          also lol trying to equate calling messi a coward to racism

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      The game was bad, they lose, brasilian police repressing argentians, rodrygo calling coward a team that tried to deescalate the situation and defend the safety of the public… They have to shift the conversation somehow

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          Those man absolutely despise messi with a passion, always see a bunch of real Madrid flairs in messi threads, its actually hilarious.

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          idiot takes on there. its stupid ppl say rodrygo and vini only call out racism BCS they have “victim mindset”. but that doesn’t mean rodrygo was an asshole to messi and argentine fans/players. two things can be right at the same time. argenine fans shouldn’t have been racist, and rodrygo should have shut his mouth and contain his impatience.

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          And none of them see how cringey it is that a player’s father posts shit like this on Instagram like a wittle baby.

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            This is literally just regular beef between two footballers from rival countries. They are acting like Messi racially abused Rodrygo himself.

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      Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher

      I think most people do treat Messi that way though.

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          I will never understand how people hold that moment against him. Weghorst staring daggers into him from across the room, literally looking like he wants to shank messi in the heart and everyone dog piles in messi for reasonably reacting

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        No they don’t. Everyone can recognize he’s a good guy off the pitch and very reserved. On the pitch no one has ever claimed Messi to be a morally just angel. He has been hot headed on the pitch on several occasions in the last years and I haven’t seen anyone deny it

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        The issue is that people just glorify these athletes. Messi is a reserved guy, not very outspoken guy, but when provoked he will attack back. Should not be shunned for it, he is still a human who is going to defend himself. Just cause the guy is quite and not assertive, doesn’t mean he isn’t spineless.

        Like any person, even if they are calm and relaxed nature, they will attack back at a certain point.

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        Yeah, this infantilization of Leo Messi never sat right with me. Just because he is introverted doesn’t mean he won’t get into squabbles with opposition players at all.

        As a general statement, Rodrygo’s dad is right. It’s just that context doesn’t make the statement look great.

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          Lol Rodrygos dad is right ??? He literally posted this cuz his son is involved…and you wouldn’t believe me…why is son is involved… Apparently he called the captain of the opposition team coward for not playing a football match cuz people from his country were getting beat up with batons… I mean who even priorities stupid lives of people over a football match… Definitely right dad…

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          Rodrygo started the fight, but surely his father is right lol. Messi should have apologized to rodrygo after being called a coward.

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          Am I wrong? People worship the ground he walks on and go into a blind rage at any criticism of him. He’s the best player of all time but there are some unhealthy relationships people have with him.

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      It’s completely overblown. Stupid by Rodrygo to call them cowards in this situation but typical trash talk. “We’re the champions blah blah blah”.

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      Definitely overblown, but definitely overlooking the full context of the situation. Rodrygo got racially abused, which has been the hot topic of football, especially since he plays along side Vinicius, so people will focus on that more. Dont get me wrong, under no circumstances does Rodrygo deserve to get racial abused, however, he made himself out to be a target to the Argentine racists considering he was being completely insensitive towards the Argentina fans that were experiencing police brutality in the stands.

      Not saying it justifies racism, because it doesnt, however that was the reason he was targeted. Rodrygo was being a complete idiot in his remarks towards Messi and co.

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          I never said he was. He got majority of the racial remarks compared to Endrick, Jesus, and Gabriel.

          He put a target in his back for racists people to attack him because of what he said.

          Both actions don’t make a right nor do they justify either actions. This isn’t a black or what situation, it’s clearly grey.

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      Lol he didn’t even insult Rodrygo. All he said was “world cup”. He’s not responsible for his idiot fans.

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      It actually makes me like Messi more. I like to see people be passionate and fight for their country.

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      Please explain for me what actually happened. I have seen reports about crowd trouble also, is this connected?

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        It’s very connected. The Brazilian FA and/or the stadium messed up and placed the away fans right in the middle of the home crowd. A fight broke out in the stands. The Rio police went in there and started beating the Argentines bloody, even with women and kids in the line of fire. The Argentine players decided to postpone the match until the violence stopped. Rodrygo accused Messi of being a chickenshit for the delay. Messi reminded him that the last time he played in the Maracaná, Argentina won and the world champions are not afraid of anyone.

        They played, and Brazil lost. Now Rodrygo is getting hate from the usual human trash on Twitter because he turned a blind eye to police brutality and called someone else a coward for not doing so. (I think Marquinhos was the only Brazilian who tried to help, so props to him).

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          Thanks for your reply, much appreciated! I assume you are Argentinian? Is there an alternative perspective or is this the general feeling?

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            I think that’s pretty much it. I watch CONMEBOL as a European for our players and ex-players, and because the games are fire, but am a neutral as to countries. (If I were going to cheer for any of the CONMEBOL big three right now, it would probably be Uruguay for Araujo and their interesting project.)

            And watching from that perspective, I saw it the same. It looked like a situation where the rational response would be everyone — players and fans of both sides — united in anger against the police and organizers, but of course there are emotions running high and people are people …

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      Oh yeah we get hit with racism every time we play against this unicivilized country but because they have messi they are the good guys

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        “They’re racist!”

        “They’re an uncivilized country!”

        Not even an inkling of the irony here? Really?

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    From what I understand, Messi refused to play until police stopped beating Argentinian fans with batons and Rodrygo got pissy and started calling him a coward for it?

    Not sure what his dad’s upset about. Maybe he should teach his son to keep his mouth shut instead of needlessly talking nonsense.

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      he is upset because messi fans are racially harassing rodrygo, and messi is staying quiet so he is conivent

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        Rodrygo refused to stand up for people being assaulted in front of him and defended it. How is that okay? And you’re talking about Messi being quiet ?

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    Why is it any time Messi or Ronald are involved in even the tiniest of scenarios it has to get overblown and turned into some massive controversy with everything getting overanalysed with microscopes. It’s so annoying.

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    In the defense of Rodrygo, Im not for racism in any shape or form. But for Argentina, their fans were literally getting smacked by batons. I don’t know what happened there, but regardless, the team left the pitch to send their message of disapproval of what was happening. I don’t know about y’all but that’s far from being cowards.

    1. Y’all racist fucks just stfu and be civil. If skin color is the only thing that you can come up with when defending anything, go read some books

    2. Rodrygo dad, Why don’t you teach fundamentals like manners and thinking before speaking? No point of succeeding without them.

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    Messi might be a great role model ever sometimesand the best ever , but just as Ronaldo he has his ego too, there are times where he is in the wrong , you can’t deny that