Fine, but they should make some changes OVER the skin. The Panamera is so ugly while also being so derivative of the 911 that it actually made me dislike the 911’s styling.
I still remember the 996 days when Porsche decided to place a little more emphasis on peoples’ opinions and decided to try something new with the 996 chassis 911’s design, and out came the fried-egg headlamps, and everyone moaned and whined. I still thought it was great on its own. For the record, Porsche still could’ve played it safe by staying with the pre-facelift design with little changes, and people still hate it.
For the record, they’re still FAR better than BMW right now…
For the record, they’re still FAR better than BMW right now…
I’m with you there - it’s not even close. Despite my dislike for the current approach at Porsche, if we look at the 911 in isolation, they’ve done an incredible job of iterating and refining the design over 60 years in a way that’s allowed it to always look current while also always being instantly recognizable - it’s an incredible feat, and BMW has never attempted it.
BMW used to make beautiful cars, then boxy cars with a certain charm, now bloated, ugly, overstyled pieces of shit. The F87 M2C 6MT is probably the last good car they’ll ever make - and even it is 500 lbs too heavy.
So does the 718, yet is the same car as the 981 with a 4 cylinder engine.
If you want to measure how different the car is by a number stamped in a sheet of metal instead of the actually body in the car, feel free to. To me they could even call it Kia Picanto, still looks like it’s using the exact same platform as the 2nd gen.
You have bigger engineering changes with for example 911’s
991.1 to 991.2 going from NA to turbos.
Or the 997.1 to 997.2 with brand new blocks and direct injection engines and going from torque converter tiptronic to PDK.
Fine, but they should make some changes OVER the skin. The Panamera is so ugly while also being so derivative of the 911 that it actually made me dislike the 911’s styling.
I still remember the 996 days when Porsche decided to place a little more emphasis on peoples’ opinions and decided to try something new with the 996 chassis 911’s design, and out came the fried-egg headlamps, and everyone moaned and whined. I still thought it was great on its own. For the record, Porsche still could’ve played it safe by staying with the pre-facelift design with little changes, and people still hate it.
For the record, they’re still FAR better than BMW right now…
I’m with you there - it’s not even close. Despite my dislike for the current approach at Porsche, if we look at the 911 in isolation, they’ve done an incredible job of iterating and refining the design over 60 years in a way that’s allowed it to always look current while also always being instantly recognizable - it’s an incredible feat, and BMW has never attempted it.
BMW used to make beautiful cars, then boxy cars with a certain charm, now bloated, ugly, overstyled pieces of shit. The F87 M2C 6MT is probably the last good car they’ll ever make - and even it is 500 lbs too heavy.
The 1st was ugly. The 2nd gen was not. This 3rd gen is too aggressive for me.
The first gen was horrific looking!
this one is 2nd gen, just facelifted.
This is the 3rd gen. The 2nd was facelifted in 2020.
I’m pretty sure that this is like a 3rd facelift, same for the Cayenne. Abit like the 718 Boxster is a facelifted 981.2 (that is already facelifted)
It got a new chassis code so it’s the 3rd gen.
So does the 718, yet is the same car as the 981 with a 4 cylinder engine.
If you want to measure how different the car is by a number stamped in a sheet of metal instead of the actually body in the car, feel free to. To me they could even call it Kia Picanto, still looks like it’s using the exact same platform as the 2nd gen.
There are several engineering changes which the article discusses. By every development metric this is a new generation of car.
You have bigger engineering changes with for example 911’s
991.1 to 991.2 going from NA to turbos.
Or the 997.1 to 997.2 with brand new blocks and direct injection engines and going from torque converter tiptronic to PDK.