• waddiewadkins@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Sell and move up and on. We shouldn’t have time to hang around for guys we know deep in our guts don’t cut it. Artetas way of dealing with that it surprises me he’s held on so long. Maybe it’s just not the done thing to sell someone after a year… or its a contract thing!? … but taking in to account what Arteta can be like you can’t see him being around long… just because he is just good enough for the odd b-game appearance with a good thing done in that shouldn’t keep him around for long. If Arteta is the chopping block merchant he seems to be.

  • milkonyourmustache@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Can’t believe how quickly some fans turn on players. Literally 1 full season with sporadic minutes, and wasn’t brought in to be an immediate starter given that we have Odegaard

    • dont_dm_nudes@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Last season he had 33 appeararances totaling 1413 mins (15.7 90s). That is more than sporadic minutes. He made 8 goal contributions for 176 min/G-A. And he looked good in about 2 of those games.

      This season he has 14 appearances, totaling 507 mins (5.6 90s), with 5 goal contributions. Thats 101 mins/G-A.

      I know goal contributions doesn’t tell the full story, but I included it. For the so called ‘eye test’; Some fans see only the misplaced passes and poor positioning, while others see only the perfect crosses, top bins shots and the perfectly weighted through balls.

      Vieira covers the right 10 and right wing. For the 10 he is behind Ødegaard, Havertz, (and possibly ESR?). For the right wing he is behind Saka (who litterally have to play every minute of every game).

      I agree that it’s too early to say that he never will become good for us, but he might benefit from more playing time.

      I hope one of Vieira, ESR, Nelson and Nketiah can make it. Theres also Marquinhos, Lokonga, Patino, Norton-cuffy, M’Hand, Cirjan waiting in the shadows for the same positions. Most of these 10 players will not become Arsenal legends.

  • jackulatorstrikes@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    If he’s going to be starting every game then fuck it and do it. He’s so talented but played very little senior minutes in his career. Let him go play consistently and develop into the monster we know he can be

  • combine_harvester01@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Why are people calling for a sale of Fabio, he hasn’t even played 50 games ( and barely started any). He is currently the same age as Bernardo Silva was when he joined City, we’d be insane to sell such a talented player. Many might say saka and martinelli are younger and are performing, but midfielder roles are much tougher for younger players (apart from certain freaks of nature) Fabio will become a good player he just needs opportunity and a loan might just be the thing to bring it out otherwise he must start in the left 8 role.

  • CAAZL@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Odegaard missed some time recently and Vieira is his natural replacement (though we have other options like Havertz and ESR). When Odegaard was ruled out for Newcastle away, how seriously do you think Arteta thought about putting in Vieira instead of Havertz? I bet he didn’t think about it at all, because Newcastle away is not a game that Vieira is built for. While that might be understandable, we are at a point in the project where all of our players should be good enough to play any game that is in front of them. Vieira, however talented he may be, is not capable of that 15 months into his arsenal career.

    We can’t wait for him forever, and he doesn’t have enough credit in the bank to be sent off for a dumb challenge. If we could get £20M for him we should take the money and run.

  • Levon__Helm@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Jeez if some of the geniuses on here were in charge of making actual decisions, Arteta would’ve been binned a couple years ago, Salah would’ve been kicked out and KdB would never have made it.

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    10 months ago

    No, we don’t need to reduce our depth when it’s reduced enough as it is.

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    10 months ago

    People on here saying sell him are downright braindead. He’s young and clearly a longer term development project. His passing ability is world class, his style suits European competitions and he will get used to playing in the PL. He’s getting better, stop giving up on players for no reason other than they’ve been inconsistent for a season.

  • Loud-Caregiver6566@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Be ruthless and get rid, isn’t good enough, no point waiting another 1/2 years to find out when we need to be winning trophies and competing on all fronts… guy struggled in an U21s game…

  • jentso@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Fabio has an incredible final pass. But that’s it. He hasn’t yet adjusted to the EPL. Not saying he needs to suddenly change his body but he needs to figure a way to stay on his feet and overcome.