I live in central Canada, and temperatures reach as low as -30C. Just this week, it’ll be -20C overnight and I always park my car outside. From what people have told me I should idle for 10 minutes when it’s extremely cold, and then drive off. What should I really be doing?

  • BanishedInPerpetuity@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    10 minutes is way too long. Wait until the RPMs drop (choke is off) and you are good to go. Especially now when every car is using 0 or 5W weight oil.

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    10 months ago

    I never idle it at -20c. At -30c I might idle it a minute or so especially if I didn’t use the block heater. I normally don’t as it’s often not possible or easy.

    But I drive really carefully for first 100m or so. Walking speed, avoiding potholes, and only turning the steering less than a turn. That will reduce the likelihood of broken shock absorbers or cv joint boots.

    Then I avoid higher rpm or higher load until the engine is up to 40c or so. Basically where the temperature meter starts.

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    10 months ago

    Sounds pretty accurate.

    I’d wait until the needle on your engine temp starts moving at minimum.

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    10 months ago

    People warm it up for 10 minutes because they want the inside of the car to be warm n comfortable it’s not actually good for the engine or anything

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    10 months ago

    At -30c you want to wait for the oil to start moving at least. Doesn’t mean you want to sit and idle for 20min but at -30c I’m guessing your windows aren’t even clear at that point.

    I live in Quebec so I feel your pain.

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    10 months ago

    You don’t need to idle your car if it was built within the last decade. Just get it, turn the car and defrosters on, get out and scrape/clean the snow off your car, get back in and drive. Take it easy on the engine until it warms up. That’s all.

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    10 months ago

    I wait for the revs to drop back down to normal idling range. The car’s hvac won’t put out heat but the engine is good to drive.

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      10 months ago

      Same here…let the high idle die down a bit and start moving. It’s going to warm up faster (and produce fewer emissions) with a load on the engine and you’re not going to be wasting fuel.

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    10 months ago

    If you have hydraulic power steering, you want to wait at least 30 seconds to drive off after turning the car on when it’s extremely cold. The pressure in that system is insanely high with cold fluid, and one of the most common cold-weather tow-ins is a burst power steering line from someone turning their car on and cranking the wheel to the stop straight away.

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      10 months ago

      This has happened to me three times in the last five years with my Dodge Caliber. And that is just at the higher idle without moving the wheel. Same stupid piece of hose too.

  • Patient-Light-3577@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Just south of you in Minnesota here. Assuming you are using a thin oil, 0W-XX or 5W-XX the viscosity will provide adequate lubrication upon startup. Assuming also the car is fuel injected. When it’s that cold here I start the vehicle, turn the defrost on, get out and clean off any frost on the windshield. Get back in, shiver for about a minute then put it in gear and go.

    The key is drive easy for the first mile or so. No revs above 2500. Work the steering wheel (provided its hydraulic power steering, electric will be ok) so the fluid loosens up a bit. You’ll be fine. The engine will come up to temp much faster than idling.

    Couple gotchas: your windshield can frost over on the inside. That may be a reason to let it warm up further to help defrost. Also, the engine will crank over slower. If it struggles don’t risk it. Just get a new battery now.

    Now, let’s see all the people from central US chime in and tell us they let their cars warm up for 20 minutes when it hits 20 degrees out. We wouldn’t get anywhere for 4 months if we did that.

    Both of my 2018 model vehicles (Fords) have factory block heaters. I’ve never used either in over 5 years. I used it on my old truck (2006) when it would sit outside in the winter for several days. But then for only about an hour before I started it. Made a huge difference in heating up.

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      10 months ago

      Central US chiming in… Only used block heaters when it got to -20 or lower, or I just wanted a warmer car to start with… I lived on a hill with no trees so windchill factor was high. Now that I have a garage, I dont do anything special.

  • RickMN@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    You should not idle to warm up a modern vehicle. Start it. Clean your windows. Set your tunes and then drive with a light foot for a few miles. That will warm up the oil much faster than idling. See this article for the latest advice

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      10 months ago

      If someone’s breath is fogging up and forming a layer of frost on the interior of the windows and they can’t see, best to let it warm a little. Idling may not be best for the engine but dying in a wreck because you can’t see out your windshield is worse.