I have been going down a rabbit hole of potentially buy an EV and it’s been astonishing to me, especially living in California, how unattractive it is to buy an EV.
I will give you a few reasons why:
-I have to upgrade my electric panel to support charging -I have to switch to an EV plan through PG&E, which increases my partial and peak kilowatt an hour here is the breakdown of my summer rates (winter is lower by like 10 cents for both plans)
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E-TOU-C (current plan)
- Peak (4-9 PM): 54 cents/kWh
- Off-Peak: 46 cents/kWh
- Lower rates for usage within Baseline Allowance.
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EV2:
- Peak (4-9 PM): 59.068 cents/kWh
- Part-Peak (3-4 PM & 9-12 AM): 48.019 cents/kWh
- Off-Peak (All other hours): 27.818 cents/kWh
- Delivery Minimum Bill: $0.37612 per meter per day.
-I have to pay someone to install a wall charger. Got a quote for $1900
-I have to pay an additional $103 a year to register an EV in CA
-On top of all these fees I don’t even qualify for many incentives as as a household we make over 300k which is honestly nothing crazy for coastal California when you factor in living expenses.
With all of these additional upfront costs and insane electric prices how does California expect people to adopt EVs?
I really want to buy one but it seems like more of a statement play and potential car performance play then a smart economic choice.
I did a cost comparison between a used Tesla Model X, a new Ford F-150 Lightning, and a new Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid. Here’s a summary including assumptions and formulas used.
Assumptions:
- Prices: $70,000 for the Tesla Model X, $65,500 for the Ford F-150 Lightning (after rebate), $56,000 for the Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid.
- Annual miles driven: 13,500.
- Gas price: $5.73/gallon, Electricity price: $0.27/kWh.
- Toyota MPG: 31.
- EV maintenance costs are 60% of a gas vehicle’s maintenance.
Formulas:
- Annual Fuel/Electricity Cost:
(Miles Driven / Efficiency) * Price per Unit
. - Total Cost (5 Years):
Purchase Price + (Operating Costs * 5)
. - Total Cost (10 Years):
Purchase Price + (Operating Costs * 10)
.
Results Over 5 Years:
- Tesla Model X: Approx. $77,797.
- Ford F-150 Lightning: Approx. $78,064.
- Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid: Approx. $73,665.
Results Over 10 Years:
- Tesla Model X: Approx. $85,082.
- Ford F-150 Lightning: Approx. $90,628.
- Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid: Approx. $85,141.
Conclusion: The Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid is the most cost-effective over 5 years, while the Tesla Model X becomes more economical over 10 years due to lower operating costs.
The big unknown for me is I’m fairly confident the Toyota will be working well well beyond 10 years. We’re still yet to see how EVs and the batteries hold up over that period of time.
Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts. Coming back to the title if we feel the electric rates are at all time highs due to inflation then maybe the cost analysis is off however, I would assume gas would follow suit. I guess it depends at what percentage one would fall or increase over the next 10 years.
use less gas, natural gas, and electricity. make cost less relevant.
GM Makes Vehicle-to-Home Bidirectional Charging Technology Available Across Portfolio of Upcoming Ultium-based EVs
https://news.gm.com/newsroom.detail.html/Pages/news/us/en/2023/aug/0808-v2h.html
The Electric Ford F-150 Can Power Your Entire House for Three Days on a Single Charge
https://www.thedrive.com/tech/40695/the-electric-ford-f-150-can-power-your-entire-house-for-three-days-on-a-single-charge
PG&E and General Motors Collaborate on Pilot to Reimagine Use of Electric Vehicles as Backup Power Sources for Customers
https://news.gm.com/newsroom.detail.html/Pages/news/us/en/2022/mar/0308-pge.html
Tesla Powerwall owners made up to $500 in the first year of the virtual power plant
https://electrek.co/2023/02/09/tesla-powerwall-owners-made-500-idollar-first-year-virtual-power-plant/
Tesla Powerwall owners in the California virtual power plant report making up to $500 in the first year of the new program despite launching only in the summer.
hybrids have batteres. every single Prius ever made.
might be prudent to redo the “ROI” after you add the ability to capture and store sunlight… what happens when you run the AC off the car or the home battery you charged with the sun… all summer long?
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-powerwall-covers-monthly-payment-after-vpp-events/
This, Gillund believed, would be a good way to reduce his home’s typical power bill, which hits about $650 per month during summer.
The benefits of the solar panels and Powerwall batteries were immediately evident, with the Tesla owner noting that his home’s power charges dropped to just the $10 minimum every month.