Odd question to ask, perhaps, on this sub. But I recently had a conversation with someone who is blindly anti-EV and he kept rambling on about a “silent majority” of EV owners who “don’t care at all” about the environment. I personally don’t think that’s true, but I may be (sadly) wrong.

(We are both car enthusiasts, but he leans right, I lean left (and am concerned climate change). In case people are curious)

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    Environmental reasons were primary reason I bought EV. I own a lightning and there is zero chance I would buy an ICE truck. I would argue it doesnt matter why EV owners buy, even if they charge off a primarily coal powered grid right now. Bottom line is without EVs and eliminating emissions and the possibility to charge off solar (even if its in the future) we wouldnt have any opportunity for environmental impact. Even if EV owners buy for incectives or performance its a step toward emissions reduction and some separation from fossil fuels. So if people recycle because they get $5 back they are still recycling

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      1 year ago

      Do you actually use it for work purposes or just using 4 tonnes to carry a single occupant to the local supermarket? If it’s the latter, it’s not green at all

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        It actually is green regardless of what you do with it and Im tired of this small brained argument. It still has zero emissions and uses less energy than the ICE SUV it replaced. Its a similar size as the prior vehicle and we needed to use a trailer to haul our gear before and we got 10 mpg with a trailer going up a snowy mountain road. Zero emissions is still zero emissions. I can understand the point that using public transit or the smallest vehicle possible is the most green but in the US w almost zero public transit and gear and a family to haul your options are a very not green large ICE or a green EV. Stop the EV hate for trucks and SUVs these are the vehicles that will convert the masses.

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          Engineer here

          No

          It’s not

          If environmentalism and “converting the masses” is remotely a concern we need people to be aware of this fact, not keeping the wool over their eyes that car manufacturers put there because marginal gains won’t be enough

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            Let me know when you engineer a more environmentally friendly way of getting a family and gear up a mountain every weekend and if its more green then I will adopt. Until then this is better than replacing my near dead ice with a gas guzzling ice. Call it what you want but this is the best solution out right now so to me this is the green choice