• pepis@alien.topBEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I have about a dozen dead wd white labels, all clicked/faulted right around the 3-5 year mark. (Out of 41 disks across 3 servers).

    Looking back, the small discount from shucking was not worth it in long run. These are subpar drives.

    Just my personal two cents.

    • ketosisrunner@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I have 2x8TB, 2x10TB 2x12TB, 2x18TB and 14TB, all shucked. No issues. the 8TB’s are at 6 years powered on too.

    • ZorbaTHut@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Honestly at this point I’m buying used drives. I have redundancy anyway, and if I get a 50% discount for buying used and have to buy 10% more drives for extra redundancy, that still comes up Milhouse.

    • OnceUponCheeseDanish@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      So for someone who currently relies on external drives, you wouldn’t recommend this? Would that be all WD easystores or just the 18tb? I’ve still got a ways to go before migrating to internals so I can’t really afford much more than the $200 thus far

    • Jr712@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I have 8 WD whitelabels that are all around 5 years old. None dead yet but I may have just gotten lucky so far. I’m going to buy 2 of these to start replacing the old ones.

    • M4Lki3r@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      This is all anecdotal evidence.

      I’ve got 8-8TB, 8-12TB, and 3-14TB drives (all white label shucks) bought between 7yrs ago and now. The 8TBs were all bought over 5yrs and no failures. I’ve had 1 -12TB die recently, it was at the 3yr mark.

    • doodlebro@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I think you have environmental issues at play. That failure rate is incredibly abnormal.

      • r34p3rex@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Agreed. Many of my shucks are over the 3 year mark with the oldest approaching 7 years, powered on 24/7 and never spun down. None show any signs of degradation

      • porksandwich9113@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I agree. 2x6tb, 2x10tb, 8x8 going strong for 6 years 24/7 operation now. All easy store shucks. I just installed 8 18tb from server parts deals in my new NAS as well no issues a few weeks in.

      • HaussingHippo@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        By environmental issues do you mean the condition of where the hardrives are being stored? As in if heat is too high or too much humidity in the air around the machine?

    • indie_airship@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yeah before shucking got popular the white labels were helium filled and the 14tb and 10tb drives required the 3 pin tape mod on all my evga and Corsair psus. I won’t be buying wd to shuck again. I’ve had good luck with seagate expansion drives which are actually labeled exos or ironwolfs which are supported with firmware updates from seagate. Warranty claims also isn’t an issue I worry about with seagate.

      I’m coming up to the 4 year mark on my wd white labels and they’re a hassle.

    • fxcking_hostile@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I’ve got 10 drives 5 8 tb going on 6 years and 5 14 tb going on 5 years had 1 8tb develop a bunch of write errors at around 5 years in imo they have been worth the money they have been running 24/7 in my main unraid server

  • chrisprice@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Cleared out my store’s three units.

    Pairing this with 8TB SATA SSD for disaster proof backups. After twenty years, getting all my data in one place…

    … Well, except the 20TB overflow. That backs up to my $279 20TB’s. Which hook into BackBlaze. They had better appreciate the loyalty. The 28TB backups sure cost them a lot.

    I’m just glad I don’t have more. Then I’d have to set up a NAS and, ugh, I’m just working too hard to enjoy doing that these days.

    Only hiccup so far is either my 8TB Samsung 870 QVO died or the enclosure, a whopping 30 minutes in. This is why I backup meticulously in (at least) three separate locales, plus encrypted cloud.

  • ArmchairNeckbeard@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I bought two. One to give me room for another 900 movies on Plex and another to back them up. I should be good for awhile.

  • h3110m0t0@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    so are these drives worth it? I mean the price is nice but is the quality worth it?

    ​

    I’m interested but don’t want something to die out. I suppose my other question is what is normal life expectancy if 4/5 years is considered bad.

  • jszair_p@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Setting up my first NAS (synology). This or recertified Exo for the same price and warranty?

  • edgan@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    It is somewhat tempting, but I bought six 18tb drives a few years ago. I have already replaced half of them. My nine 8tb drives have been much more reliable.

      • chrisprice@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Off site backup for your existing data, in case of disaster.

        Sorry to burn $200, but you’ll thank me later when disaster strikes… living in an area where five neighboring cities all burnt to the ground in the course of 24 months (in the three worst wildfires in California history, back-to-back-to-back)… I have experience here.

        • neumaticc@alien.topBEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          i haven’t migrated my photos from local storage to my homeserver but maybe i could when i do

          maybe a raspberry pi and syncthing for external backups would work well (since it’s a USB hard drive)

    • fedroxx@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Welp, there’s my Christmas budget… gone in one fell swoop. You might as well join… us… I think there is more than just me here… hello?

  • DeathStalker_x77x@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Yes, but can you shuck them and use them? Or have they added the drive encryption to the interface?

    And what specific model drives are they? (The HDD, not the easyStore)

    -– DS

    • Celcius_87@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I returned the 14TB I bought last weekend and bought this one today instead. I’d recommend doing the same!