• canon12@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Toyota using their current technology to compete in an EV market that they can’t at this time. Hybrid is a patch and in my opinion will eventually dry up. Nice car but $50K + dealer markup is currently in the process of drying up. ManyToyota owners that paid over sticker price will remember the dealer that took advantage of them when it comes time to replace their car.

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      1 year ago

      You can say the HV and PHEV is a patch, but it fills Toyota’s ongoing strategy. They see a slower transition to full EVs that most people on this sub would prefer.

      The dealer markup is a separate issue. Toyota corporation doesn’t see anything from the markup at John Smith’s Toyota dealership. Their goal is to produce enough vehicles so that an individual dealer cannot markup a model due to scarcity.

      For whatever reason, Toyota hasn’t been able to get the parts they need to build as many Primes as people want to buy (computer chips?).

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        1 year ago

        I think Toyotas mission was to use hydrogen vehicles as their EV. Frankly hydrogen might be a better option than electric if they had succeeded in making it available at the same time. It might still be if it reaches the point that it is widely available. Bob Honda and Toyota missed the mark on EV’s. It’s a shame. I think both make great cars.

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    1 year ago

    Hybrids: All the complication, maintenance, and expenses of an internal combustion engine AND an electric vehicle, all mashed together like a Frankenstein monster. I’ll pass.

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    1 year ago

    I know someone with a 2010 Prius and she just paid a ton to have her regenerative brakes redone. I guess they don’t just use the motor?

    And here we are 13 years later with the same overly complex, far too expensive car.

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    1 year ago

    I was told $3k down, 6-8 month wait, $3,700 markup over MSRP. Another dealer (both Seattle area) said $2k down, 1-3 month wait, $5,000 in mandatory paint protection bullshit.

    Thanks Toyota

  • MrPuddington2@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I mean, it is a good car, and possibly the best PHEV around, but car of the year? Is it the affordable price, or what made them come to that conclusion?

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    1 year ago

    There’s a reason GM got rid of the Volt. Hybrids carry around a ton of dead weight.

  • Pinewold@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Wow, how much advertising did Toyota buy this year?

    Model Y is the top selling car in the world, but can’t reward folks who do not advertise, so looks like 5 year old technology wins the day

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      1 year ago

      Model Y doesn’t qualify. Motortrend has always required new or major revisions to a vehicle to qualify for car of the year.