- cross-posted to:
- gunners@soccer.forum
- cross-posted to:
- gunners@soccer.forum
You must log in or register to comment.
What how why?
This is why Spurs were always the “Elephant on the branch” this season. All credit to Ange he’s come in and got them playing exciting football in a season where they’ve lost their talisman.
But the people putting them in title contention conversation really showed their lack of knowledge. It’s unsustainable for a full season to allow that many chances to be conceded and have a chance at winning the league.
Defensive, patient football can be ugly but it wins you games and subsequently titles
But Spurs were playing that boring football in previous seasons before Ange?
Up until the Chelsea game our defensive record was really good. We weren’t conceding much and a lot of games we had narrowly won 2-1 1-0 2-0 sometimes scoring late other times by just keeping composure the full 90. It’s only now that we have an injury crisis at the back plus Romeros red card that we are conceding chances like crazy (look at the wolves game)
While true it has to be said that Arsenal conceded most of their goals last season after Saliba got injured, along with other injuries affecting their ability to rotate and cover like Tomiyasu, and key ingredients to their transition from defence to midfield like Zinchenko (also Saliba). They started conceding lots of goals even against weaker opposition. This also affected their ability to impact the game further up the pitch.
I personally think that if they had continued the same form as the first half of the season, they would have won the league. They had already shown resilience in scraping wins in ugly games, showing patience and strong mentality to win.
They won the title playing boring football, way back before the sport was properly invented
Bottlers
Thierry Henry saw his shadow so six more years of my wife making Arsenal always walk in jokes.
Tactical is a better word for boring, but I get the sentiment.
no it’s not, attacking football is still “tactical”. those wengerball era walk-the-ball-in goals were not accidents
That’s why they’re top of the table now right?
Great point, fantastically well made, pal 👍🏻
Exact same happened to us, we played more attacking and generally better football the year we won the UCL compared to a more controlled style when we won the league the following year.
Honestly I think it was more the determination to win the league after losing by a point and the motivation from winning the UCL that launched us to the title the next season.
I actually think our major style change occurred after 17/18, we were way more free flowing and open that season and changed it all up the next season.
I mean you all had less points the next year. Just teams fluctuate and city didn’t get such an insane point total the next year
let’s be real though we should’ve won the league the year we won the UCL, we lost it on 1 point
Then you shouldn’t have won it m8
Let’s be real though. We should’ve won the league but after 38 games, another team had more points than us
And we played even better (I.e more attacking) football the first year we got to the final under Klopp.
To be fair we had to because the defence was still a total shambles at that point. No VVD until January and no Alisson either.
I mean you for 98 points that CL season. You were 100% good enough to win the league in fairness
The fact they got 98pts and didn’t win the league is astonishing. I can confidently say that will never happen again. Definitely won’t be beaten!
They got 97, and honestly I feel like it will happen again it cuz it happened in 21-22 w Liverpool getting 92 and still losing by a point
Didn’t Barca get 100 in Madrid 102 season? It will never happen again for sure tho
No offense to La Liga, but i think it’s a bit different than Premier League. Barcelona and Real Madrid are so much better than all the other teams
I honestly think the title race will be so close between Liverpool, Arsenal and City that it’s a complete toss-up at this stage over what happens. I’m dying for Arsenal to win, but I can’t say it’s more than a 1/3 chance.
To even be in the position for a third of a chance is solid progress from just two seasons ago.
Injuries and fitness are likely going to be the decider. In that case, I’d give an edge to City, unfortunately.
I don’t see it as even that close tbh… 60% chance city wins it, 20% each for Arsenal/Liverpool
Experience as well. Liverpool still have prime players who’ve won everything (Salah, vvd, Alisson, Trent)
Spurs obviously can best them all
And then you have all the other top 10 teams are incredibly hard to win away at
I think AF Cup is the difference this season. Liverpool loses Salah, Arsenal loses Saka, but City loses no one.
Do you know that black doesn’t mean they play for an African country? Try reign in your racism a bit. Here’s a clue, neither of the two Arsenal players you mentioned, will be going to an African competition
City lost Rodri and dropped important points. I know they have more squad depth than both Liverpool and Arsenal but it’s Rodri the one player they cannot replace in case he gets injured again or suspended, unlike any other position on the field. It’s definitely unlikely that we’ll miss more games this season but anything can happen
saka the famous english star?
Has to be trolling lmao.
But yea, Liverpool lose Salah and Endo, possibly Matip aswell? Not sure if he still plays for his national team or that he retired.
Arsenal will lose Partey, which we have done for the whole season anyway, Elneny (who is just getting fit) and Tomiyasu (who has been very important for us.
Not ideal, but could be worse
Could be worse yes. But Partey and Timber are huge loses.
I do think we would be much more legitimate contenders if Partey was fit
LMAOOOO
Arsenal are nowhere near 1/3 chance. Iirc city are at 80 or 90% and Liverpool are a bit above arsenal.
Shut up, nerd!
Very similar to man city too. Won the treble last year because they improved defensively.
We saw it in the Arsenal v Man city match, 2 teams that set up to make it very difficult for the opposition to play through them. Resulting in an arguably more turgid encounter.
I mean this ignores that you had the second most points in history
If just was unlucky it was city’s best league campaign
Had zero to do with playstyle
Same with mancity concede less win the league
It’s november tbf
Exactly. Long way to go.
tbf = to be foolish
The problem is that offensively, Arsenal has lost several steps. Ødegaard is the biggest example, huge drop-off stats wise.
Having a solid defense helps a lot, I agree. And Arteta has opted to go for more control over a game in a style that’s more conservative in terms of wasting energy. There are still glaring issues. Most important one is that they have two goalkeepers who tend to throw away the hard work of the defense in an instant. Raya has directly been responsible for goals conceded in what six games now? And Ramsdale has been quite bad for over a year now. They need a serious upgrade in goal next summer.
For noobs more likely means no way in football journalism
That’s how all sports and games work though?
#ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Arsenal are not winning any league title so give it a rest
Can’t wait for you to finish 7th and call it progression after spending a billion. Take Putin out of Chelsea and you are back to default settings