• TheEgyptianScouser@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    From a Liverpool fan who just stumbled upon this post hope you get your meme from this

    This one is ours

    “Well done boys, Good process”

  • Nero_Darkstar@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    VAR has removed accountability from the refs and linesmen. They might see something but don’t have to call it as they know VAR will check it. But VAR thinks that the ref has seen it and not called it so they rarely intervene.

    Ita also worth noting that the ONLY penalty awarded by a ref that VAR has overturned this season is Havertz vs Man Utd. Much more dubious ones have been left.

    Until they copy and paste the Rugby Union model (ref and VAR specialist teams constantly working together not former refs keeping their mates out of the shit) and the onfield ref clearly asks what he wants checking, it’s not going to work because subjectivity is there from the start.

    Linesmen need to revert to having to flag for fouls and offside checks and report everything they see to the ref.

    Oh, and stop the bribery from UAE/Saudi leagues is probably a good start. At minimum, declare the conflict of interest like normal organisations.

    • Legal-Care9822@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I watched the rugby wc final (1 of maybe 3 rugby matches I watched in my life) and I was honestly blown away by how the VAR works. A little jealous also.

      • ugubriat@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        It seems like refereeing culture in rugby is superior in just about every respect to refereeing culture in football. Rugby players have a near-absolute respect for the ref’s calls, while football players dissimulate, shout abuse and physically intimidate referees in just about every game.

        I put this down to rugby having such strong roots in amateur sport, where football, being professional, made star players and managers so powerful that they gained a kind of impunity and began to pressure refs simply because they could and it served them.

        What stops the PGMOL or FIFA referees worldwide from straight-up carding players for disrespect, or what makes their organisations so spineless and shit, though, I just don’t know.

        • tomtomtomo@alien.topB
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          10 months ago

          I somewhat think there’s a higher degree of respect on the rugby field with the ref and other players because it’s on the edge of violence. If there was no respect then it would get out of hand very quickly. It’s necessary for the game to work.

  • gyyoome@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Oh yeah! After y’all edited the clip or made a new one. Good process.

  • NiallMitch10@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    “look at how well we did”

    100% guarantee Webb and Owen will be full of it tomorrow night reviewing Newcastle’s goal

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    10 months ago

    Who’s to say the audio won’t have been tampered with. It’s so easy to do so, and how would we know? Don’t trust them anymore, so how can we trust them to be honest?

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      10 months ago

      It’s been like 10 days, definitely raises suspicion that they may have been cooking the audio.

      Also many of us were over it. Fresh off wins vs Sevilla and Burnley, Spurs and City dropped points… Why resurrect this now? Call it gaslighting or trolling, it seems like they’re bullying Arsenal for a laugh.

          • _PineBarrens_@alien.topB
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            10 months ago

            Yeah bro. Like I know you’re making a point but I’m just saying - any delay in releasing this is not related to editing it. And I’m not even saying they haven’t - I doubt they would because I don’t think anyone hired to do that could be fully trusted to not leak it at some point…

  • Onlyheretostare@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    For what reason? The calls were apparently right by the ref, var and the independent review right? So what are they hoping to gain from the release? VAR atm is a fucking joke.

    • crushedonron@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      It’s trolling, they can’t make a big deal out of Newcastle losing, City dropping points, or Spurs choking, so what can they do to get a rise out of Arsenal? Release the audio of this so we can all hear the nonsensical logic.

  • Butch_Meat_Hook@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    What’s the point of this? The audio isn’t going to be a smoking gun against Arteta’s criticisms. They’ll just say ‘we can’t prove the ball was in or out’ and ‘we can’t get an angle to see if the goal scorer is offside’. The problem is more that they can’t answer those kinds of questions, which is the point of VAR.

    In terms of referee communication, I’d be far more interested in hearing what they had to say about Bruno’s violent conduct on Jorginho which by the textbook wording was a red card.

    • tomtomtomo@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      By playing this audio without the context of the Bruno non-calls it makes Arteta look worse. Those non-calls were obviously part of the reason he was so riled up.

    • crushedonron@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      It’s just going to be someone on repeat “Can’t do anything… Can’t do anything… Can’t do anything…”

  • seshtown@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Love that the thumbnail is 100% conclusive proof that the goal should never have stood.