It probably gets 95% of the calls right. FIFA says 99.3% but I don’t think so. Still, if it didn’t exist everyone would be crying to implement technology like they did before. Think of all the goals/no goals that have been rightfully overturned. Even if there are some horrible calls sometimes, the good calls outweigh the bad ones.
And a lot of the egregious errors are when it fails to overturn an already incorrect call by the ref.
95%??? Come on, even you don’t believe that. Also, Arsenal calls BS since it seems because of VAR they keep getting apologized to from PGMOL
The problem with VAR is that it’s not all upside. I imagine the number of correct decisions has gone up but we also now have long pauses in the game and we’ve lost those moments when a team scores and celebrates because we know it’s a goal.
The rules of the game weren’t written to be under this much scrutiny. Using virtual rulers to measure offsides. It’s ruining the game
Plus it was brought in to stop the howlers and hasn’t done so. They still happen anyway.
Get rid of it
I’m a Spurs fan so the VAR decisions have gone massively for my team not against
The “correct decisions” argument is evidently bollocks anyway. Just watch any PL broadcast when you’ll get some ex referee claiming that the officials have got a decision right when everyone can see with their eyes he’s talking absolute bollocks. It’s pure gaslighting.
It’s the people using it that’s the issue.
You mean the Video Assistant Referees?
Exactly. In the Forest vs Villa match, I think that VAR official was correct in all the calls they made.
The decisions I was annoyed about didn’t even make it to VAR review. The ref and linesman fucked up and moved on without any VAR review.
All audio and replays should be made available. Don’t know why they tried to re-invent the wheel when other sports already have an equivalent system that they have honed over the years. Rugby still has controversies but at least the discussion is open and the decisions are clearly communicated, also they show a whole clip of an incident instead of one screenshot of a tackle for example - context is important (mitigating circumstances). Also like the use of the yellow being a ten minute ‘sin bin’ with option to upgrade to red but that’s a different discussion
It was fine to start with, it seemed pretty consistent although boring with goals being ruled.out for having a toe offside 40 yards away from goal. (That’s fixed by listening to Wenger’s recommendation if a pet of the player is onside, then they are onside)
However this season we are seeing subjective and wildly inconsistent decisions being made. There are clearly.teams who have benefited from dodgy var more and teams that have frankly had the entire dynamic of Their season so far tainted by key, incorrect decisions going against them - and seeing the same decisions not given or even reviewed in other matches.
Offsides, violent conduct and penalty calls is all it should be used for and those rules cleared up to push consistency of interpretation across the referees.
Wenger’s recommendation is utterly stupid. Then we will be looking whether an offside player is having a toe onside ahahaha nothing will change, that’s utterly stupid and I don’t get how hard is for people to understand.
Honestly? We used to have ‘can you see daylight’ as the rule and it worked a lot better.
But to answer your utterly dismissive statement it’s actually very simple- people want to be entertained - goals are harder to score it’s why all the contenders for GOAT are forwards.
When you rule out a goal for a toe being offside - you are rewarding defenders for standing in a straight line - that is it no other skill or talent involved.
When you are allowing a goal to stand because a toe was onside - you could be rewarding a timed prun, an incredible pass, a brilliant shot or a fantastic team move. At the moment all of those things are being ruled out by a toe being offside fairly regularly and it’s a massive downer.
It isn’t exactly the same not even remotely
If I were some emotionless robot that treated all calls equally and only cared about accuracy %, that might be meaningful to me. But I’m not. And I know when I watch games where there is no VAR I enjoy things a lot more knowing that whatever I see happen, outside of maybe a sec or so delay for a lineman to raise his flag, is what is going to happen. No worrying about thinking that that ball may have deflected off of a hand and wondering if VAR is going to go back and review that or anything like that.
And on an emotional level the bad calls completely outweigh the good ones. Because in the past the vast majority of bad calls could be excused by it being a fast sport and things are going to get missed in real time. Now, the bad calls are mostly inexcusable and inexplicable.
Just like the ManU game yesterday. I’m about as far from a fan of that team as you can get. But I’m still beside myself on the handball calls. I know the rules. I know the wording. Those were not correct calls. It’s completely inexcusable that VAR was used not only to confirm them but overturn the correct live decisions. There are few calls I can even think of before VAR that are as bad as those. And this has been happening often over the last few VAR years, that’s just one that’s fresh in my mind. So don’t give me this I only care about it when it’s against my team BS. I care more about the game of football than any club loyalty.
To be fair we all know that UEFA have a different threshold for handball that the prem.
Var for hand balls n red cards suck
Just because its doing fine doesn’t mean it can’t still improve…
No. Just straight up no, it is not doing fine, not remotely fine.
Yessssss
My biggest gripe with VAR isn’t how many calls it gets wrong.
It’s how many times we spend several minutes after a goal not knowing what the fuck is going and can therefore never properly and spontaneously celebrate
VAR doesn’t improve enough decisions to be worth the cost, in my view
Goal-line tech and fully automated offside make sense - the rest isn’t worth the cost
VAR in the premier league is a joke
It’s shit everywhere it’s been used. The argument that it’s only bad in the PL is false. It’s just that the PL is by far the most followed and scrutinised league.
I didn’t say it’s only been a joke in the PL, I simply stated that it’s been a joke in the PL which I regularly watch.
Fair enough but I see people make that exact argument all the time.
Question is: why don‘t they get 100.0% right? They got dozens of perspectives and as many replays as they want, how can they justify that it is still wrong sometimes?
Is a useless trinket