• tory@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Truth is dying, as well. You get to choose what to believe during and long after the fog of war. One wonders why the US supports Israel so much throughout this level of shit if it’s actually this bad.

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      1 year ago

      A country’s support for an action is not the moral bellwether you think it is.

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        1 year ago

        The US has been propping up Israel as a glorified military base since 1948. America’s politicians do not need to be bought by AIPAC because Israel is crucial to US imperial interests. The influence flows in the opposite direction to what your statement suggests.

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            The truth is that is flows both ways.

            The US has a vested interest in Israel and their sustained conflict since the MIC has been major industry in the US since WW2.

            Israel pays into a lobby to ensure that otherwise on-the-fence politicians, who’s consituents otherwise don’t care much for Israel one way or the other, or ar evenly split both ways, continue to vote in favor of Israeli-favored spending.

            It’s a mutualistic relationship that both sides feed in to to keep the tie strong.

            You can even think of it in the reverse.

            Without Israeli spending, there’s a chance our nearly broken democracy works and enough anti-Israeli or Israel-skeptic reps get elected that their spending doesn’t go where it needs.

            The fact that this post could easily get me called an antisemite us sad. Zionism, and all religious extremism, is a fucking curse.

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        It’s more like the NRA. The “you’re racist of you don’t support Israel” line was highly effective. So like the NRA they can end your political career in large swathes of the country. Of course you can get endorsements and things too if you play ball.

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            Yup it’s all carrot and stick. I just want to be clear it’s not just some back room thing. There’s been major PR campaigns and everything. They’re very much the liberal version of the NRA.

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      1 year ago

      truth is dying

      As evidenced all over this thread by people who didn’t Google what this “refugee camp” is

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        For those of you who are likely imagining a haphazard refugee camp of tents in a field set up for the people fleeing the city of Gaza during this war (that’s certainly what I was imagining), in reality it’s a heavily urbanized area (essentially just another city next to Gaza at this point).

        It gets its name because it’s the original spot of a refugee camp in the 1948 war, something like 100,000 people live in the area now, it is also one of Hamas’ strongholds and where the First Intifada of the 1980s began