Wayland. It comes up a lot: “Bug X fixed in the Plasma Wayland session.” “The Plasma Wayland session has now gained support for feature Y.” And it’s in the news quite a bit lately with the announcement that Fedora KDE is proposing to drop the Plasma X11 session for version 40 and only ship the Plasma Wayland session. I’ve read a lot of nervousness and fear about it lately. So today, let’s talk about it!

  • @danielton
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    510 months ago

    Why would you want to give your money to the one option that Linus says is the single worst company they’ve ever dealt with?

    • wiillou
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      210 months ago

      @danielton
      Some people don’t have a choice. like laptops or computers they already own having Nvidia in it.

      • @danielton
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        Again, you’re not the target of my comments. I’m talking about people who continue to buy nvidia after switching to Linux, and then bitching that it doesn’t work, especially with Wayland.

    • Kayn
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      110 months ago

      Because my life doesn’t revolve around what Linus says?

      Is that so hard to understand?

      • @danielton
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        210 months ago

        Do you have a vested interest in Nvidia or something?

        • Kayn
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          110 months ago

          No, I just don’t base my purchasing decisions around whether some other person would like it or not.

          People like you are the reason why the Linux community is viewed as elitist.

          • @danielton
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            610 months ago

            The reason I’m speaking up is that I am sick and tired of people buying nvidia and then bitching that it doesn’t work. Not people who already had nvidia hardware or received it secondhand. People who keep buying nvidia laptops and cards and bitching that it doesn’t work all the time, especially with the transition to Wayland.

            I stated the reason that this is the case, confirmed by the leader of the kernel, and you’re turning it into “I don’t care what Linus thinks.” It’s not elitism. The fact is that nvidia doesn’t care about Linux as much as Intel and AMD do. That’s just facts. And there’s no hope of this ever changing unless Linux users start boycotting nvidia.

            • Kayn
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              010 months ago

              Why do you care so much about those people? Why not just let them live with the consequences of their own actions?

              As a Linux user, you will never be able to boycott Nvidia. Linux users make up about 3% of computer users. It won’t matter to Nvidia if 3% of anything boycott their products.

              • @danielton
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                210 months ago

                Why are you so worried about people wanting to see this situation change for the better?

                • Kayn
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                  010 months ago

                  I’m not worried. I’m being realistic.

                  • @danielton
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                    510 months ago

                    I’ve used Linux long enough to know that refusing to be complacent can lead to positive change. I’ve seen it firsthand.

                    We didn’t always have such good hardware support on Linux. People refused to accept crappy binary blobs and ndiswrapper for other things, and won. Having the attitude that you don’t want to listen to Linus because you love nvidia so much doesn’t help.