Non-comparable, apples and oranges. It exists, it’s there, you can generate it to make something quick, but it’s not art. You simply can’t compare something that someone poured their heart into and something that a prompt made

I have the 6, and it’s well worth it, I’d assume the 3 or 4 will be quite the upgrade from a dumb phone

I’ve heard the same. If you’re in the games industry and you finish shipping usually you’re laid off and then you move on to the next project. When a new battlefield comes along they’ll just start hiring everyone again whether they worked on the last one or not. It’s not really a long-term strategy but they don’t care. It’s about short-term gains.

'Chievos are a very personal thing, they were never important unless you personally thought they were. If you don’t think they’re important anymore, then great. If you want to chievo hunt, also great. Gaming is what you make of it.

Tell me its Barnes and Noble without telling me.

Maybe it’s not. However every time I go in there I see the most trash low quality books. Not to mentioned you get the vibe that every one was approved by a lawyer for being “safe”. I will browse when I end up in one, but I never buy.

We are dropping to a one car house. Our now single car is an EV, I scopt and take transit, and I can’t be more ready for when we don’t even need the one

Quadruple the caution if it’s a coworker. Hello HR violation.

Thanks!

Definitely agree, most of the docs I find are for the fairphone 3 and 4. Thanks for telling me about the switch!

I had no idea it was configurable! I think flashlight would be great!

Fair warning, I’m the mod of !taylorswift@poptalk.scrubbles.tech but hear me out folks.

So I’m no stranger to posts like this at all. I’m no stranger to the peer pressure to not like her by my friends, and everything.

Back story, I had always been hard into zeppelin, pink Floyd, queen, and was one of those “yeah man this is real music”. I refused to listen to anything else. It wasn’t until I was broken up with over a weekend and was driving home late at night and " You Belong With Me" came on, and it just hit me all over the feels. Completely differently when you’ve just had your heart ripped out. I couldn’t tell anyone, I felt shame because I knew my friends would make fun of me.

So I kept making fun of her trash music, it sucks, it all sounds the same, because that’s what my friends did. Then 1989 and Shake it Off came out and it was such a fun song. It didn’t have deep lyrics about hobbits or trees or bicycles, but it was fun. And I enjoyed it. So I bought her album. And reputation, and lover. I joined the subreddit and I was gobsmacked. People were welcoming, and loved having me there. It became our fun space where we talked about how a song made us feel, or guessing when the next tour would be.

So my view has been shaped by these memories. There is no such thing as good and bad music. There is no master ranking of songs that say this is good or bad. There are complexities, there is technical difficulty, but those are mechanical. It can’t be quantified how a song makes a person feel. So yeah, you may think her songs all sound the same, that they are boring, but that doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy them. Last weekend I both had on my TV The Delicate Sound of Thunder live bluray and the 4k copy of the Reputation stadium album.

It comes down to let people enjoy things. It brings them happiness, so why ruin that?

And final note. The trope of “only young girls like her music”; I’m saying as a near 40 year old man who dressed up with my wife to go to the eras tour, that is an incredibly sexist take.

(If you enjoy her music and want to come over, check us out at !taylorswift@poptalk.scrubbles.tech. No music judgments there)

Again. Not should exist. Will exist. I fundamentally believe they won’t shut up about it until something is done. “Nothing” is not an option.

If you take out the option for nothing, then this is really the next best.

Sounds like maybe you should apply

Okay calling it a lie is a harsh term, and I thought we were coming to at least a mutual understanding of each other’s points.

I do not disagree with you, that it shouldn’t be them getting involved. However, what is happening is that they are getting involved whether we like it or not. This is the fundamental difference in our viewpoints. If you think there is still a chance to hold out, go for it, but I think there is no way to avoid it at this point.

I see it very clearly. That it’s going to happen whether we like it or not. I personally think if all the OSes just held out and said “No way we’re not doing anything” then the obvious response is that sites will need to require IDs for everything, and we lost even harder. It’s better to suggest a tech forward privacy based approach now rather than let them dictate that everyone should take IDs.

That’s my point of view. I know you disagree, and we’re not going to come to an agreement, so I don’t see the need to continue this thread.

You see, the reason you didn’t know was because we had eradicated it before you morons decided you were smarter than the entire science and medical community because you watched some youtube videos

For this:

These two statements are in conflict and cannot both be true.

“There is no section mentioning penalties for individuals entering false age information. You are completely free to submit whatever age you wish.”
“It’s literally just closing the giant loophole of “I’m totally over 21” that we all made fun of for years.”

They are not in conflict, because the onus is on the parents to set up a child’s account. So if the parent did their job, then the child can never click “I am over 21” because at the OS level it’s blocked. They would need their parent to bypass that again. For adults, on your device, you simply never set up a child’s account, and you don’t need to worry about it. So yes, I consider that closed. A child loses the ability to click “I’m over 21”. Adults if anything hopefully don’t have to click that anymore, but I’m guessing for safety they’ll still force us to tick the box.

And what if a website or app doesn’t check this or add a nudity flag for the device/browser to check? Do you think porn sites in other countries will care?

So far this isn’t for the web at all, but I see this as clearing up the grey areas. Maybe they don’t care, maybe they do. Maybe it puts more power on the browser to help stop it. If a website or app does not listen to it there are consequences for it, but seeing how it’s quite literally a boolean check it sounds pretty easy to be in compliance. That’s the monetary damages we saw above.

I don’t know man, I see this, which is a simple thing a parent can set on an account: are they a child or not. Or, the alternative, which is everyone has to upload their government ID to some third party site, have it stored for all of eternity, and collated and collected, just so they can access discord, or social media, or whatever. The thing is that I do not believe there exists governments right now who are willing to let any of it slide anymore, they are demanding that something be done. Nothing is no longer an option. If we have to choose one of the options, (and by not choosing it means they will choose for you), this seems like the safest most privacy focused option.

I hate lists in comments, but fine.

1. This is irrelevant, it doesn’t matter how you use your computer
2. They don’t specify it has to be the user’s exact birthdate. It can quite literally be anything the parent wants to put in there. In fact when you read the law, it says “Age brackets”. The birthdate will not even be exposed in the API, only what bracket the user is in.
3. Correct, which is why it has to be mandated.

• I supposed that’s on each distro to decide? It’s a mandate, they’re not defining payroll.
• I read the laws for both CA and CO, it doesn’t say, but it does say that above applications will listen to that and may block functionality if the account says they are underage. As for circumventing, I assume each distro will want to prevent that from being circumvented.

4. What possible legal consequences might there be?

Up to $2,500 per affected child for negligent violations
Up to $7,500 per affected child for intentional violations

How would the state know that a user in compliance with the law?

They don’t, there is no mandatory reporting, there is no “phone home” of compliance. It is only, and I mean only a boolean check in the OS, “Is the user a child or not”.

What are the consequences if a user or operating system is not in compliance?

There is no section mentioning penalties for individuals entering false age information. You are completely free to submit whatever age you wish. This is 100% for parents to create a childs account.

Is this data being recorded in a database?

No. This is the largest bit of misinformation about these bills. There is no place where a database is created. It is literally an OS level signal that says “Child is under X age”. A browser can check that signal, and if little Billie wants to see something adult related, the browser blocks it saying that they are under aged. It is still 100% opt in, there is no requirement for an OS to take an age, only that they must allow the option.

If they suspect you have a child using an “adult” account, does the state have the right to seize your computer?

NO. They have no idea! There is no tracking at all! Seriously. Read the law for yourself.

if a child uses an “adult” account to access “harmful” content and that somehow leads to damages, is there no ability to sue for those damages since the child was committing “fraud”?

NO. If the account is a default, normal adult account, all developers can trust that signal. “A developer that relies in good faith on a signal… is presumed to have accurately determined the user’s age and to be in compliance…”

What if an adult is logged in and a child uses the computer?

This is the only slightly ambiguous part, which CA at least knowledges is a gap, if there is a shared account. This law does not state anything about that, and only puts in place that a child should be able to create a child account. At this point the OS would say that the user is an adult, and would fire the signal that they are an adult, and from the other parts of the law there is no liability if the parent didn’t set it up as a child’s account.

Seriously. Please go read it yourself. I’ve been an open source advocate for a long time, and I’m a software engineer. Nothing in this law seems alarming to me. Annoying sure, but literally I can’t think of a better more privacy friendly way to do this. It is quite literally only saying “You must have a way to create a child’s account, so that the API is there for other apps to block access”. It’s literally just closing the giant loophole of “I’m totally over 21” that we all made fun of for years.

In fact what I really love is that it’s doing what we always wanted from the beginning. Put the onus on the parents. This quite literally puts 100% of the onus on them. Like as an app developer I can say If !os.isChild showPorn. It’s quite literally saying “Look, we’ve done as much as we can, you had one job to do as a parent and that was to set your child’s account as a child account, and you didn’t. That’s on you.” As an engineer myself, if all I have to do is check a flag to make sure kids don’t use my NSFW app, then that sounds like a win.

https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1043/id/3269704

There are multiple solutions to this problem, and one job posting does not mean they are suddenly forcing changes into the linux kernel, the kernel that literally runs the entire internet, countless businesses, and governments to prevent cheating.

The facts are that we have a single job posting from EA where they want to investigate how it could be done.

There is a best case and a worst case scenario, with so many thousands of options in between. Immediately assuming the worst case here isn’t doing anything. All probability says it will probably be something in the middle.

It’s an assumption that because they use the kernel in Windows that they’re going to do the same in Linux. It’s not feasible for them to. Even if they did somehow convince all the maintainers that they deserve kernel access (and let’s remember we’re in a post-crowdstrike world and they’re messing with the same kernel base code that runs all containers and servers out there supporting the entire internet), they would still need to take into account that people can just fork the kernel and compile their own.

This is one single job posting where they are investigating how they could do it. Don’t be so quick to grab the pitchforks.

If a company the size of EA is willing to consider that Linux might be worth supporting, that’s legit a huge win for us. The power of the open source kernel will keep everything else in check.

Battlefield is pretty much the only big online game I enjoy anymore, and since I switched legit it’s the only game that I haven’t been able to play. It’d be great if they can figure out some way to make it work. Cheaters are such a huge problem in battlefield that I understand why they won’t bring it to Linux without knowing how to set up an anti-cheat solution. Battlefield 5 was just unplayable because of the constant bots and cheaters.