it should be measured from the feet
If that is deemed offside by the current rules then the rules are absolutely ridiculous.
But you can legally score with your shoulder where the shirt sleeve is, more offside than the line looks
“It should have been a goal”. Why? He was offside. Just because was close? So where we draw the line between close enough and offside? Also, this is the semiautomatic system and only took less than 30s.
People are always complaining.
Who said it should have been a goal? You’re just making up people to be upset at
It wasn’t even close.
To me I feel like feet being offside matters. I don’t think someone’s head being offside really makes a significant advantage
Are you implying you can only score using your feet? Because what if the person is offsides in the Box and they win a header for a goal but their feet were behind the defenders like in this photo. It’s still offside because you can score with any part of your body, aside from your hand and arm.
Agreed! Ignore the downvotes
This!
With binary decisions like onside / offside you need to draw a line at some point.
“But it was so close. They should only call clear situations offside.”
This is clear! Head is partly offside. What do you want then to be ‘clearly offside’? 5 cm? Or 10 cm? Then we will have discussions once somebody is 11cm offside.
So when we have to draw a line let’s draw it where it fucking belongs – at 0 cm.
Then we will have discussions once somebody is 11cm offside.
No because he won’t be 1cm offside he will be 11cm offisde, if I’m doing 56mph on a speed trap which the limit is 50mph with a tolerance of 10%, i’m not 1mph above the limit, i’m 6.
As the laws of the game stand it is offside, however I do feel like it should be measured from the feet. I know you can score with your head, but there is always going to be a certain amount of lean while sprinting. Arms/shoulders shouldn’t come into play because a defender on the half turn is going to have their arm out for balance as they’re turning (shown in the photo). I’d prefer feet as the point of measure, but from the current rules it is offside. Fine margins at such high speed though.
yeah, I would prefer offside being like.
It’s based on the feet, and for VAR to overrule the onfield decision, the foot must be at least a set distance past the last foot of the defender to account for margin of error.
I don’t want to see any umming and ahhing about “oh, it’s milimeters off”, if it’s like… Less than 5cm, it’s onfield decision, especially if that distance could fall within the system’s margin for error.
Follow the way cricket does it for LBW reviews. The ball tracking must show over half the ball hitting/missing the stumps for it to be overturned, otherwise the onfield decision stands.
I feel that technology in sports work best when used to prevent clear mistakes in onfield judgements, not when used to split hairs on technicalities. Ruby has a great approach, onfield referee will say “Onfield decision is try, can you check for forward pass/grounding/whatever… Is that clear evidence to over-turn the try?”
I feel like football is too into trying to provide clear evidence to uphold the onfield decision, when that should be the default and it should be clear evidence to overturn otherwise you’re stuck forever in margin calls where no outcome can be clearly upheld.
it should be measured from the feet
This. They should look at feet only, that seems like the most fair. And to add to that I’d say one foot of the attacker would have to be behind a defender’s foot in its entirety for it to be offside, not just a toe.
Plus, generally it’s easier to just tell with the feet as they’re on the ground. No need for fancy graphs and close call lines.
I would ask you why you think track running isn’t measured by the runner’s feet then as well. Why does a runner cross a finish line when they cross with their head and shoulders?
I would prefer if any part of the attacker’s body is level with any part of the defenders body it is onside.
If you look closely The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee a playable part of his body
Why not just look at what can touch the ball without an infraction?
Head, shoulder, foot, etc, just no hands
That’s essentially what they do already. If you look at the photo The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee
Offside rule should be updated. This should be a goal. Applying 2020s technology to a rule created decades ago is ridiculous.
Offside rule should be updated. This should be a goal. Applying 2020s technology to a rule created decades ago is ridiculous.
Yes offside by half a head, not even close
Offsides should be judged by foot position only, change my mind.
I’m sorry but this is ridiculous. If you think for a second that offside was implemented to stop these types of goals, you’re anti football. Vini had almost zero advantage here. There needs to be a small buffer between lines.
There already is a buffer. In this image you’ve got about 6/7 inches from the attacker’s shoulder to the end of their sleeve, which is the furthest forward point that they’d use to draw the attacker’s line in this instance.
The call is obviously a correct one. My personal belief is that the laws of the game in conjunction with the technology we have should change to allow these plays to stand and count as goal. It’s frustrating to see such offsides like this stand when the reality is the attacker isn’t gaining an actual advantage with the 3 inches of space
This is utter bullshit. If a player is a fine margin in front of someone and gives basically 0 advantage, it shouldn’t be considered offside period. But who am I kidding that will never be enforced, remember Argentina vs Saudi last year? Cancelled goal due to an arm being over the line, absolute joke.
Change the rule to front door versus front foot and be done with it
Why Premier League clubs voted against this I will never understand
It feels like VAR and refereeing in Europe are better than in some top leagues, the amount of shitty mistakes even using that same fucking technology in La Liga & EPL is unbelievable.
Isn’t European reffing just referees from the top leagues? Are there UEFA only refs? The technology is semi-automated offsides which isn’t in La Liga or the EPL.
They don’t use the same technology. This screenshot is from the semi-automated VAR system used by the Champions League. Not sure about La Liga, but the Premier League don’t use the semi-automated system, it’s completely manual.