Picture needs to be updated: it shows too many connections with Beehaw.
This would have helped me years ago when I was kind of confused on Mastodon. Very nice intro to new users.
Might I suggest a “single column” version as well, for the folks on mobile devices? 😁
Where does kbin fit with lemmy? Is it a competitor? I see a lot of posts pointing to lemmy communities. Can people create new kbin communities like lemmy?
Kbin reminds me of slashdot, maybe it’s the UI
Thanks for asking this!
I set up accounts on both in the hysteria of leaving reddit.
I think I get how the various lemmys work/interact, I just don’t know how Kbin fits into the picture.
I am just using my laptop, not on mobile devices yet.
Third day here, so still learning and giving lots of time and patience for the dust to settle
This is so well done!
I like how the portmanteau visual for fediverse is a car crash lmao
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Because currently lemmy doesn’t substitute links to rewrite them from your own community.
Eg. !cats@sh.itjust.works would refer to https://lemmy.one/c/cats@sh.itjust.works From your instance. If people don’t link correctly though it’ll direct to https://sh.itjust.works/c/cats which you wouldn’t be able to join
Essentially as long as your instance isn’t actively defederated from a given instance, you can typically join your instances “mirror” of that community.
Say you wanted to join cats on sh.itjust.works… you can open your instances search and paste !cats@sh.itjust.works into your search
Two likely possibilities with further detail about each below:
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The link you clicked took you to the community on the host instance rather than the copy on your local instance, or
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The community is on an instance that’s defederated with your home instance.
When you view and interact with communities and content hosted on another server, you’re technically interacting with a copy of that community/content that’s hosted on your home server and kept in sync with the main copy. So if I want to subscribe to /c/technology hosted on lemmy.world even though my home instance is sh.itjust.works, I need to visit the copy on shitjustworks at sh.itjust.works/c/technology@lemmy.world
If I went to lemmy.world/c/technology, I couldn’t interact because I don’t have an account on the lemmy.world site.
As I said above, communities and content are copied between Lemmy instances and kept in sync across the copies. But sometimes an instance will ‘defederate’ with another, ie cutting the direct connection between them that lets them copy and sync content. In that case, there’s no local copy for me to subscribe to or interact with.
The incorrect link is far more likely to be the issue than defederation, so whenever you run into that issue check the link and make sure it’s the copy on your instance.
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Possible that said instance has defederated from your instance.
Awesome @angrynomad@infosec.pub, thanks for this
not actually mine , credit is on the bottom left, but I cant even re-load the image, let alone lemmy.world, it’s all so slow. I was actually trying to find the original to link to someone else and couldnt load lemmy.world
a simple and nice introduction to Lemmy, Mastodon and Fediverse really helped my stupid ass. thank u
Great graphic. The only thing that is unmentioned and potentially confusing is that the same community names can exist on multiple instances, just like email addresses can do.
I don’t know how to easily boil that down to a simple graphic.
“go to lemmyverse.net and find the biggest”
I find that comparing it to email makes it click the fastest. Everyone knows that you can email someone no matter which email provider they use.
This is great but beehaw defederated from Lemmy, Kbin, etc so we can see but can’t interact with them.
Beehaw defederated from a couple specific Lemmy servers, not Lemmy overall.
Beehaw’s instance page lists instances they have blocked.
Tbh I think we can expect all instances to eventually defederate when someone offends someone else and they get cancelled
Yeah I can see this being an issue with the fediverse in general. There really is no ability to completely block someone or remove them from the fediverse. Some see this as a benefit, some see this as an issue.
Lemmy allows other instances by default, so nothing stops a bad actor from just spamming instances on subdomains to harass or spam. I just hope we don’t end up with a system where instances are defederated by default because then that will seriously fragment the community.
Thank you, this is very well made and covers all the basic questions!
I’d also like to add that you can get very cool usernames by joining smaller instances, since usernames don’t have to be unique between instances ;)
Yeah, that’s true.
Says the guy with pride who snagged python on the biggest obviously programming instance :-) nice one!
Indeed! I’m not even a python programmer (I do Delphi but was recently moved into PERN) I just like the snake and have been going by variations of python for years lol
This is amazing, sending this to my less tech savvy friends!
Thank you! This clears up so many questions I had
