Nope… Spaz isn’t going to get my money.
He blatantly treated us all like crap:
- He acted like he was doing us all a favor, and acting like he was a charity. Reddit doesn’t even need much bandwidth or resources as it’s a text site essentially. They’re still making a lot of profit.
- He doesn’t acknowledge that Reddit’s value is in the community. Reddit themselves are their content. They basically just admin the servers and throw ads up. Spaz isn’t exactly contributing thousands of articles, but lots of people are
- They don’t pay mods. But finally, when the mods get fed up with Reddit, he took credit for their hardwork by hijacking those communities when they objected
- He went full Elon… And…
- He went full Trump when he accused the Apollo developer of blackmailing him. If he wasn’t lying, he would have posted more of the conversation. The apollo developer should actually sue him for trying to damage his reputation
- Finally, the beauty of the fediverse is that we can choose our community. Whereas, Reddit decides if they want to allow toxic communities and people. The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish (and eventually I believe into real life)
I actually deleted my main 7+ year old account (no idea exactly how old) a few months ago on Reddit, because it had grown too toxic there. Really happy with Beehaw, and really excited to see where Lemmy / KBin ends up in a few years time. Already donated to Beehaw
The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish
Ironically, 3rd party apps like Sync allowed you to block entire subreddits from appearing on your r/all feed. I used that feature a lot to block out junk subreddits that I have zero interest in.
Idk I’m happy I’m off reddit. I use kbin, but significantly less. Less mindless scrolling
Right? I think I’ve downvoted a grand total of a half-dozen comments here in the last month. On Reddit, I’d be handing those things out like candy.
I actually deleted my main account on Reddit a few months back because the toxicity in any comment I posted started to weigh me down (even in the r/Australia sub, it became clear that a lot of people there likely weren’t Australian).
I’ve noticed things have degraded even more there in the past week, and in the Aussie subs, most of them have gone fully toxic.
The worse part is when you can’t even call someone a cunt outside of r/Australia. They act like I’ve stolen their first born or something 😮
Idk, I acknowledge it must be a pain in the ass to know whether you can call someone the equivalent of “dude” or not, but I feel like that one’s fair. When you recognize something utterly mundane is a high insult in someone else’s culture, you kinda stop using it towards them unless you intend the insult.
I sure as shit wouldn’t just drop the honorifics with a middle eastern/asian stranger or walk around their house in street shoes just because doing so is unremarkable where I’m from.
Spez:
Frankly I don’t see how anyone could trust Reddit as the steward of decentralized communities like they claimed to be.
They’re in it for the money, that’s it.
I think it’s just changed over time. Reddit was really different ten years ago. Posts by the admins about changes or their actions regarding drama were more common for example.
Honestly, at this point I don’t see any coming back from this. It’s been a damned good effort, but Reddit isn’t going to back down at this point. The mods are going to have to put up with it or leave. I’d hope they’d leave, but honestly I don’t think there’s going to be a mass exodus of moderators.
But maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised
Yeah to say that these requests will fall on deaf ears would be an understatement. If Reddit has shown us anything throughout this debacle it’s that they will always do the wrong thing.
Yeah, nah, bro. Why would I get back into an abusive relationship?
The fact that I’m commenting on a post is something I would never of done on reddit means kbin is my new home. I’ve nuked my 15yr old account and there’s no reason to go back.
Why would any third party dev want to return after Reddit so thoroughly killed any trust they have?
That ship has sailed, both ways I’m afraid.
Not only reddit made it exceedingly clear that they aren’t backtracking, 3rd party developers equally clearly stated they are out.
I don’t see this situation reversing.
I highly doubt Reddit is going to bend on this. They want those third-party apps gone, and that ridiculous pricing is how they’re doing it. They also think that they’ve won. They don’t have any incentive to change.
Good to see that ‘we’ll be in touch’ quote being printed at the end of every article.
I know, it was deliciously scathing. This kind of integrity is how you get new readers, I think. Wonder what things would have been like had spez attended that day of kindergarten
Nice to see this getting the press coverage that it deserves.
Jay Peters was very objective on this, so much so that Reddit started to refuse to answer his questions when asked for comment.
I was watching the Vergecast podcast yesterday, and Reddit has basically ghosted Verge for any comment on their part.
They said that they’d “Correct them when they need to be corrected.” Otherwise the only people Verge is talking to are users and moderators.
Reddit staying classy as ever there. /s
There’s also Jay’s scathing remark on this, with him basically saying ‘since you haven’t reached out to correct us, I’ll just assume we’re right’.
So what happens if Reddit doesn’t comply to their requests?
Last time mods did a protest by making subreddits private, Reddit threatened to kick them out of moderation at that made most mods just shut up and comply.
Now mods have absolutely no leverage against the admins. I don’t sympathize with Reddit, but I lost all sympathy for mods too. They should simply do what we all did, and hop off Reddit for once. Sadly, they care more about their “mod powers” than anything else.
I think some just take a bit longer to leave the communities b they build behind and still try to fix reddit. there will probably be a longer exodus of mods when they realise after July 1st that their communities aren’t the same they used to.
of course there will always be bootlickers as well.
