Donald Trump announced plans to hold a press conference next week to present a “conclusive report” proving that the 2020 election in Georgia was rigged. This comes after Trump was recently indicted by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis for attempting to overturn the election results in Georgia. Trump claims the report will show election fraud and lead to “a complete exoneration” of all charges against him. However, critics argue it has been over two years since the election and Trump has not previously provided evidence of widespread fraud. The announcement also comes just hours after Trump lashed out at Willis for indicting him now rather than earlier. It remains to be seen whether Trump’s promised report will actually contain new evidence that could substantively challenge the prior investigations.

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    Holy shit he actually said “the report will come out next week”. Like his healthcare solution. Or his infrastructure plan. It’s all coming out next week.

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    Amazing how he “suddenly” has proof of the fraud that could have made him President.
    He… lost it until now?
    Did he finally find it while looking for more TOP SECRET documents in a box in another bathroom?
    He will literally open his mouth, commit more crimes, and be in more trouble. I hope he gets himself jailed!

    Drinking Game: Every time he says “perfect phone call” you drink a shot.

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      Drinking Game: Every time he says “perfect phone call” you drink a shot.

      I believe that coercing people to die from alcohol poisoning is a criminal offense.

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        You could always do beer shots = less alcohol poisoning. How many shots in a keg???

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      Hey trump, why not give your “proof” to a court of law? Where it might actually be useful?? I mean what good is it showing your evidence to faux “news” viewers?? What are they gonna do, they cant get your out of an indictment.

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    So not only is he going to say the things he’s been told not to say- but he’s announcing when and where he plans to do it.

    He no think good.

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    We’re literally watching a civil war / military takeover in realtime getting set.

    The plan is to make it a week from today, so he can’t be jailed before then for violating his court duties without Republican’s claiming it’s proof Biden is using the court system to silence him.

    Then after he announces rubbish on Monday, he’ll instead claim he’s being silenced for revealing “the truth”.

    The only move that can be taken to counter this would be to move to trial sooner / almost immediately or for the normal republican’s to make a signed letter acknowledging that trump is a psychopath

    I’m an Aussie, but I wish you guys all the best dealing with this dictator-wannabee (and ya’ll welcome here in Australia to counter the growing nonsense we’re seeing Trump spread here too).

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      We’re literally watching a civil war / military takeover in realtime getting set.

      No way. The American brass (i.e., military leadership) is well aware of these games and can see right through them. They’re not going to move against Biden, certainly not for Trump.

      If this becomes a civil war, it will end very very quickly. I guarantee the National Guard, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland, and the collective US armed forces have made to plans for the coming weeks/months and are paying very close attention.

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        My concern is that your general army grunt is not a great thinker and tends to be quite pro-Trump to begin with. How are they going to act if they think that they have been asked to oppress him?

        This is why right wing ideology needs to be targeted as soon as it appears because it’s like a disease that infects weak-minded people.

        Think about the capital riots and how some of the police officers were accused of basically letting the rioters in…

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      The Georgia case hasn’t even been turned over to a judge yet, forget about a trial.

      The 8/25 deadline is for the defendants to be turned over for arrest and arraignment. That’s when he’ll get a judge and we’ll learn next steps.

      Willis wants a trial within 6 months, so before 2/15/2024.

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      Put it to you this way… In the U.S., there are a lot more real gun carrying patriots than the trash that follows Trumpism. That shit would be squashed quickly if things broke out. Also, most of those people are old and fat. They make for easy targets. I’m not worried.

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    So he couldn’t present the evidence in court to exonerate himself, but it magically appears after the fact for a press conference… Interesting

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      The proof in court wouldn’t exonerate him. Even if the election was rigged against him, he can’t do illegal things the take it back.

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        Very true. Ok updated sentiment

        So he couldn’t present the evidence after the election and needed to break the law instead, but it magically appears after the fact for a press conference when he goes to trial

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          Exactly. Assuming that he actually has proof (big reach), then he would have had to know it before he started doing illegal stuff in 2020. Even then, the obvious question would be why didn’t he go through the courts to fight it? Of course, he did and lost every time. This means that even if he does have proof now, he didn’t have it when he was trying to steal the election “back” or he would have presented his proof then.

          I’m not expecting any real evidence to be shown in this press conference. It will be an obvious attempt to induce rage in his base to distract from the facts presented in court.

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      And what, exactly, has he faced in terms of consequences for anything during his 77 years on this rock? There is pretty much zero chance he sees any jail time and he’s well aware of this. So what has he got to loose? Might as well stir up shit in prep for a Jan 6 v2 in 2025.

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              Well Desantis kind of blew his shot at the brass ring by biting the Mouse that feeds, but I get what you mean - there are certainly smarter people who are paying attention to the political zeitgeist who can ride that populism and know how to seize the levers of power with it. In particular I’m worried about a police force that leans rightwing and has been getting drip fed the runoff from the MIC for the last several decades.

              This is me tinfoil hatting here, but I think part of the reason that the old guard republicans fall in line with the new alt-righters so easily is because they both know about all the shit that goes on behind closed doors and that if one sinks, they all go down. People easily forget that way back during the 2016 elections, Russia got into the RNC servers right alongside the DNC and while everyone was yelling about the DNC leaked files, suddenly lots of Republicans were loathe to talk about Donald’s blatant ties and they all got right behind him as the nominee. The eight Republican senators’ visit in 2018, on the 4th of July no less, to Kremlin officials to “foster relations with the Russian government” when the investigation into Russian interference was in full swing. The fact that alt-right Congressmen led a tour of government buildings days before Jan 6. And they all tried to downplay just how fucking close we came to a successful coup. Had Pence gotten in that car and left the building, I think the experiment would have been over, and the only reason he didn’t was probably because he thought he was going to get Epstein’d - I don’t care what he says about Trump now, they were chanting ‘Hang Mike Pence’ outside and he was shitting himself, and he knows how quickly they’ll eat their own. All the driver would have had to do would be to drive towards the crowd and unlock the doors. I don’t believe for a second he’s got America’s best interests at heart. But his fear nonetheless kept the transfer of power intact, even if now we can no longer count on it being peaceful.

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      I don’t see how this isn’t a brazen attempt to taint the jury pool. If he has evidence exonerating him he just needs to present it in court.

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      He’s already set up his base to think the charges are fraudulent. Any additional charges will just compound their irrational beliefs.

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      Absolutely. Stupid is as stupid does. The narcissist can’t help himself, especially after drowning in his own Kool-aid. Hopefully the judge will revoke his bail and incarcerate him until trial, you know, like how any other defendant would be. Please! Prove to us that there’s no separate treatment for the rich, even an ex-president! This is what we need!

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        “I’d love to show you the report, it’s beautiful, and perfect, and it shows in so many ways how I’m innocent of all charges. My lawyers wept when they, true story! My lawyers were VISIBLY WEEPING as they read it. VISIBLY! But now, on the advice of those lawyers, I can’t release it to you. I CAN’T! I want to, but I can’t. They tell me it would tell these evil, nasty, prosecutors too much about our defense, so, you know, we can’t have that.”

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      Someone bet him he couldn’t get to 100 indictments by Wednesday, and he said, “hold my diet Coke!”

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      Not further charges but it can be referenced to furthering the conspiracy for the RICO charges. Overall that is a hard case to figure out though.

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          Sure, but first amendment issues and generally proving something is not sincerely held seems difficult to me. The former is something appeals courts will decide while the latter is something a jury will decide.

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            “First Amendment issues” is a non starter and a Trump lawyer talking point. As Judge Chutkan so aptly said, “Mr. Trump, like every American, has a First Amendment right to free speech, but that right is not absolute.” There are lots of kinds of speech which are illegal all by themselves. With respect to a RICO case, when acts of speech are “overt actions in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy,” even otherwise benign speech can be illegal. Conspiring to commit a crime, and taking overt action to further that conspiracy, is a crime all by itself, even if the crime being conspired does not come to fruition.

            Whether or not the conspirators’ “sincerely held belief” was that “the election was stolen” is irrelevant. If that is what you sincerely believe, there are already legal procedures to deal with that; take your case(s) to court. Which the Trump team did, with zero success. Just because you don’t like the outcome does not make doing an end run around the law and conspiring to change election outcomes in illegal ways “suddenly legal.”

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    Dope! Let’s do it in court where if you’re right we can restore you to your rightful office and if you’re lying you’ll go to prison for the rest of your life.

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    I’m willing to bet money the only reason he is doing this is because the judge told him to make his defense in court, not social media.

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    He’s had 3 years and only threatens to show his hand weeks before receiving what could be a life sentence for himself?

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      It’s a ploy, he wants to get censured so he can claim the evil libs won’t let him share the truth, so his base is riled up enough to act again.

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    The “proof” going to be one of his indictment papers with his name crossed out and Biden’s written beside it in red crayon.

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      He says “A Large, Complex, Detailed but irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference … in Bedminster, New Jersey, … along with infrastructure week and my beautiful health care plan that will completely and totally replace failed Obamacare"

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    I could hold a press conference about how the world is flat and not round but that will not make it so. Trump is such a fucking moron. Even his Wharton professors thought so.

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    Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis indicted Donald Trump on Monday for working to overturn the 2020 presidential election in Georgia, just weeks after Special Counsel Jack Smith indicted him on federal charges for his efforts to subvert the democratic process nationwide.

    It all seems pretty damning, but the wily former president has an ace up his sleeve: He’s going to simply prove the election was rigged and convince Willis and Smith to drop the charges.

    “A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” Trump announced Tuesday morning on Truth Social.

    The post came hours after Trump railed late at night against “an out of control and very corrupt” Willis.

    Willis didn’t indict Trump two-and-a-half years ago because an investigation this sprawling takes a long time to actually complete.

    It must take just as long to complete such a “Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT,” one that must be chock-full of new information all of the other investigative bodies who worked to uncover proof of fraud were unable to obtain.