• red_cted@exploding-heads.com
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    1 year ago

    yeah it’s basically this, socialists think that our economy is 0 sum, that the rich can’t get richer without taking from the poor. In reality capitalist economies are capable of growth which brings wealth to all classes.

  • squashkin@exploding-heads.com
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    1 year ago

    I think there can be conservative socialism that isn’t nationalist socialism (nazism)…

    as much as there is leftist capitalism (bud light and others that go woke and broke)

    • T_y_rannyLoverLOL@exploding-heads.com
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      1 year ago

      say what you want about the nationalist aspect (which i agree with, but to each his own), but you can’t deny that the economy was amazing when Hitler was in power. Fair, balanced, and booming.

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    1 year ago

    Yep. That’s why the homeless crisis is growing: because the poor are richer and because there are more billionaires.

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      1 year ago

      If you’re going to call what we’re living in now a “capitalist” society, then I’m guessing you think Taco Bell is “Mexican” and a trans women are really women…

      Capitalism doesn’t prop up monopolies (there’s lots of evidence that Comcast especially has had help at various levels of government, there’s lots of evidence that suggests Microsoft bought off senators to get out of being prosecuted for committing tax fraud on a staggering scale, etc).

      I would love to have detailed, 100% publicly available records of where senators and congressmen and women get their funding. And to clean out the lobbyists and the rest of the swamp. I would love it if soros, gates, bezos, zuck got together and invited CEOs from Comcast and other monopolies on another “submarine” ride to visit the Titanic…

      Trust me that I’m no fan of the rich (at least not the ones who got rich illegally or by stepping on others) or of monopolies. But regulated small and medium sized businesses under real capitalism would work a lot better than these big conglomerates and not have all of the massive disadvantages of socialism.

      • T_y_rannyLoverLOL@exploding-heads.com
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        1 year ago

        This. There is a difference between real capitalism and crony capitalism, which isn’t really capitalism.

        Also yes, lobbying (bribes) is such a giant issue that no one talks about that’s completely fucking over the legislative process.