Ah, deprogram sub? They claim to be ML for some reason, yet there are ultra shit on main getting 1800 upvotes, dunking on ultras is getting banned for suspicious reasons like “do not post links to reactionary subs” when there is no link just screen, and there are bunch of absolutely nolife gonzaloists out there who are spamming every thread about it with their bullshit.
EDIT: holy shit there are like at least 5 threads about Gonzalo on main and everywhere the same few people are spamming nonsense and calling people white supremacist and Fujimori supporters. Btw one of those gonzaloists also post a lot of centrist shit about Ukraine.
The Gonzalite shit is very disappointing. It’s so frustrating because it’s an interesting sub and good on many things but the mods are too light-handed and may be ideologically problematic (certainly their rule on left unity {even though it’s mostly some variety of Marxists or Marxist-leaning opportunists there}).
Once again proving having rules against sectarianism is bad actually and not a good sign for a sub supposedly for a podcast, supposedly run by ML’s for the purpose of deprogramming liberals.
The sub is definitely on the minds (and under the skin) of a lot of liberals too as I’ve seen it posted to both TMOR, AHS, and I think SRD not to mention constantly being posted on by “anti-tankie” subs.
Whole thing brings back bad memories of the ultra coup on MoreTankieChapo.
Their takes on Ukraine are also imperfect, main line there seems to be “both sides bad” which is you know ignorant. Oh plenty of people with good takes on it, proper takes and they don’t get banned but lots of people very angry and upvoted pushing the both sides bad thing and the perfect off-ramp for these liberals who refuse to totally give up the propaganda of the imperialist capitalist reigning champion heavyweight hegemon (US/NATO) is to go ultra. Perfect moral superiority, smugness, sitting in arm-chairs shitting on others and feeling above it all.
left unity
“Communists” denouncing left unity are literally doing the work of the security state
“Unity is a great thing and a great slogan. But what the workers’ cause needs is the unity of Marxists, not unity between Marxists, and opponents and distorters of Marxism.”
- Vladimir I. Lenin, apparently known worker of the security state.
Yes, i feel it’s currently on the verge of sliding into yet another ultra tube, and i have serious doubts about moderators of that sub, as mentioned i seen them remove ML content already few times under false pretext, but allow all kind of maoist content, and even something like uncommented Mao vs sparrow meme.
I guess they can’t go too hard on libs since the point of the Deprogram is to deprogram libs.
More like reprogram as ultras at this point, we are not talking about libs.
