EDIT: I would like to ask people in the comment section to respect community info. This is not c/politics. Thank you.
I’ll believe anything after the 2016 polls. But this feels like a scare article.
I hope people do get scared, so they’ll get out and vote.
I can’t imagine how bad I would feel if he got elected again. But, if we got a 75 or 80 percent turnout, and that was the result, I’d be ok with it. The people have spoken, and all that.
Anything that makes people vote. Hell. Fear is what motivates conservatives to vote for trump- why not use an actual potential tragedy to get people to keep that human crime from being elected.
“human crime wave” 😉
Trump lost the Senate in 2018, the presidency in 2020, and the republicans managed a wet fart in 2022 with Trump’s candidates in particular tanking hard.
Trump absolutely has a base of support that’s not going anywhere but he no longer has the incumbent advantage, the “Unknown Quantity” advantage, or the “I’m not currently under multiple felony indictments” advantage.
Lots of people voted for Trump in 2016 and then went on to vote for Biden in 2020. I don’t see anything that indicates any of those voters would go back to Trump. He’s not offering anything new or exciting.
All that is not to say we should be complacent. I just don’t think we should be listening to people that say Trump has some big advantage 15 months out from the election. If anything, he’s going to get more unfocused and distracted as indictments pile up.
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All of those factors were going against the dems in 2022 and they still managed to outperform expectations. The Republicans have the bigots and the fundamentalists locked up. They have nothing else to offer to anyone else though. They have no legislative accomplishments, their last president (and current frontrunnner) seriously fucked up the response to the worst pandemic in 100 years, and then his supporters stormed Congress.
The average voter will put up with a lot but any one of those strikes would be enough to make them think twice, let alone three. There’s no such thing as an undecided voter when Trump is in the race.
It’s CNN, the new “fox news”
CNN. Enough said.
I live in an area who would still vote for Trump, even if they caught him boning their sons on the back of a turbo duelie.
NEVER underestimate the voting power of stupid racists.
If I was a rich (trillions of dollars) I’d spend so much to secretly get Trump to do things like this.
“We’ve always felt that two men should be able to dress in any way they want and dadgumit, JoeBob is damn good in bed”, said Billy King, a non-binary tractor mechanic who often wears pink coveralls to his job at a local hog farm.
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It always has been! Every fucking day there is a new article about “ThE gOp Is LoSiNg” then as the reality sets in we get these bizarre completely disconnected articles that seem shocked at the prospect that the front runner for one of two parties may actually win.
I’m so tired of the news agencies complete and utter fantastical outlook.
Here’s another spoiler for the news agencies that everyone already knows. We missed our chance with climate change, it’s here and it’s killing
That article tells everyone they should just give up. Why bother changing anything now?
No that’s a bad article. The one you want is climate change is here and it’s only going to keep getting worse if massive changes aren’t made at the top
It’s the truth though, it doesn’t matter how much it sucks what I just said about climate change is 100 percent true, if we cut ALL carbon right now we’d still go over 1.5C. I’m so sick and tired of all these fucking feel good lies. Is humanity doomed from climate change? That’s up to humanity to decide, is climate change here and unstoppable? Yeah and no matter how many fantasy tales you spout it’s still the truth.
What I said is also true. I’ll assume you’re correct with passing 1.5 even if we cut all carbon right now. What happens if we cut none? What if someone figures out a way to repair some damage in ten years but we’ve been doing extra that whole time by doing nothing because it was already here and we couldn’t stop it.
If flood waters pass a levee do you throw your hands up because the flood is already here, or do you do what you still can in the situation you’re in?
Just because you don’t give a damn doesn’t mean everyone else should give up.
If you want to have a conversation at least keep up with the current sciences before claiming the other participant doesn’t give a damn. You can’t even be bothered to keep up with the news about this what makes me think you care?
If floodwaters pass a levee I ring the alarm and tell people the real damage that’s coming their way, I don’t keep taking money out of their pockets and keep selling them a load of horse shit about how “if we just scapegoat enough people the water will jump back up behind the levee!”
You don’t give a fuck about climate change, you just want to demonize people wealthier then you while still buying their crap.
Thanks for all the assumptions. None of them are true.
I’m not remotely suggesting “taking money out of their pockets and selling them a load of horse shit”. I’m talking about mitigation while you’re comfortable letting humanity roll over and accept whatever comes.
I’m saying, “yeah, there’s an inferno blazing and it’s going to do massive damage but maybe we don’t all have to die horribly while screaming”.
I give a fuck about the planet and people in general. Apparently that’s hard for you to understand.
I would like to see the news that supports your apparent “fuck it, it’s over. Don’t bother at all anymore” position. That’s totally the type of message scientists send ever.
I never said don’t bother you vapid idiot, stop talking to someone else in your head. We can still do things to mitigate the HOW destructive it is, like I said it’s up to humanity to decide if this is an extinction event. What I have been saying and you’ve been twisting to try and feed your feel good narrative is pretending like we haven’t hit the point where we’ll go over 1.5c is delusional like saying the GOP are losing.
Edit: I also love the fact that you were the one to make assumptions about me and insult me, but when I spoke broadly you took offense and started acting like I crossed some line
Go back and reread the comment thread.
You said there should be an article that says climate change has happened and we can’t stop it
I responded to that with how that article will lead people to believe there’s nothing to be done. This is one thing you’ve now said didn’t happen.
That’s where you jumped in with saying everything you said is true. That at least carries an implication that what I said was not.
Then I assumed your data was correct, because I don’t keep things memorized and didn’t feel the need to look things up. From here I asked you to consider whether it was worth it to do anything or if you thought everyone should give up. Admittedly I read in to your comments so far that you felt we should give up, but I’ll stand by that reading.
From there you assumed I don’t keep up with news, don’t give a damn, and want to demonize wealthier people while still buying their crap. Did I miss any? All of those are assumptions about me. There’s also the unnecessary bit about feeding people bullshit in the flood analogy. What bullshit have I fed anyone?
You didn’t say not to bother, but you’ll see how I’ve been pointing out how you give that implication this whole time if you bother to read the exchange as anything but biased toward yourself.
Telling people en masse “it happened” is functionally the same as telling them “it’s over, don’t bother”. I’ve not been trying to make anything feel good. This situation is shit but your method doesn’t help anything but making yourself feel better. Ironic.
Where else have I made assumptions about you? Where have I insulted you? Where did I act like you crossed a line?
You certainly have now that you’ve shown you can neither discuss this rationally nor avoid devolving to name calling. You’re projecting your own behavior on to me. Look in a mirror. Reread your own words.
I’ll give you no more of my time. Take your vitriol to someone else.
One thing to consider for both of these guys is that they are ancient. Like, either one could kick the bucket six months before election day. I hope the dems have a serious backup plan.
It will continue to be real for as long as we keep giving him special treatment and avoid enforcing the law.
A one percent chance is still a chance
And you better believe they’d prefer a Trump presidency over an RFK one.
