• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Reminder: The only reason American right wingers go all in on Israel is because their imaginary sky dictator, supply-side-Jeebus, needs the Jewish imaginary sky dictator’s followers to be standing in a specific spot, presumably not while hopping on one foot singing “I’m a little tea pot,” for the world to end. But you know… in a good way somehow.

    Real people dying to satisfy the super serious fanfics of zealots pandering to their own delusions.

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          The only literal nazis I’ve ever seen are all right wing nut jobs. The only time I’ve ever heard the antisemitic tropes about Jews owning banks and space lasers and shit is from right wing nut jobs.

          I’ve only heard left wing nut jobs say things like ‘palestine has the right to exist’ and ‘the Israeli government is comitting [genocide|ethnic cleansing] in palestine.’ But I’ve not heard anything actually antisemitic.

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            That’s because it’s 110% a bad-faith argument. They couldn’t care less about anti-semitism in the sense of disliking Jewish people (as you pointed out), but they recognize the term as a convenient weapon to toss at anyone who might criticize Israel.

            It’s a weird bit of mental gymnastics.

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          If another nation came into my nations city and launched missiles, raped and captured women and children, and killed thousands I would hope my nation wouldn’t take that lying down. On top of that they use the citizens as human shields? Yes innocent Palestinians are dying but so did innocent Israelites. This isn’t a war that is easily understood because the enemy disguises themselves as normal people and uses their fellow country man as their shield.

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        I’ve met more far left antisemitic peoples recently literally saying stuff Nazis would have said than any right winger

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        Yes, it is, but there was not a single reference to college in that entire video. Do you think all of the people there were college graduates that were turned antisemetic in college?

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          You didn’t say anything about college yourself. So I made a reference to that.

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              I don’t think it. I know it. I understand if your leftist and don’t align with these people specifically but don’t deny that there are leftists with this mind frame out there.

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    It’s funny that all these right wing chucklefucks that say stupid shit like college makes you woke/left/etc have never been to college.

    The right is so frightened about critical thinking and intimidated by knowledge. What an awful way to live.

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      Plenty of ‘em have, but they dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back for not getting indoctrinated. Yet another way to soothe the burning self-hatred by pretending to be stronger-willed than others.

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      I don’t think there is one beyond the rightwing “education bad” nonsense.

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        The thing is, no one on the right has any understanding of words like “antisemitic” or “communist”. To them, they’re no different than saying “dickhead” or “asshole” to someone on the right. No specific meaning, just pejoratives.

        And would the punchline work if it were “A dickhead asshole”? Nope.

        It’s not even funny in the framework of a right-wing meme.

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    Islam (the religion) has acquired a strange immunity from all criticism, likely due to the very savvy and sneaky way the term islamophobia has been (very dishonestly) cross-linked to both the people and the religion. Ergo, any criticism of the religion becomes de facto bigotry against the people.

    Problem is, if a religion requires immunity from criticism, that religion has no right to exist.

    Just look at how George Carlin roasted Christianity. Now try doing that with Islam. You’d become instantly unemployable in the western world, your agent’s firm would likely go bankrupt, and even the venue owner would likely have to undergo a complete multi-million-dollar rebranding to escape the fallout.

    And that’s assuming you wouldn’t be shot dead during your skit by someone in the audience.

    I am very far left, deeply socialist to borderline communist. But something has gone deeply wrong with the left when Islam cannot be criticized whatsoever.

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      Do we not mock Islam because it’s immune to criticism, or is it just because we know very little about it? Carlin roasted the religion, and its inconsistencies and hypocrises. He could do that because we’re all intimately familiar with it, even atheists. I don’t recall that he advocated bigotry against individual Christians.

      Could one do a stand-up routine about “Hanafis be like this, while Sanafi’is be like that”? Probably. Nobody’d understand it, though. Personally, most of the criticism of Islam I’ve heard is more like, “Muslims are all murderers because the Qu’ran says to kill non-believers, so let’s ban them.” On the other hand, I have heard some criticism of the way that mosques here still have separate, lesser entrances for women, and that didn’t get anybody’s employment threatened.

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      the term islamophobia has been (very dishonestly) cross-linked to both the people _and the religion

      The same can be said for Judaism and anti-semitism yet people criticize Jews and Judaism all the time. I really don’t think that’s the reason.

      As the person below you points out, the majority of the time someone criticizes Islam they’re painting with a very broad brush, typically in a bigoted way talking about something they clearly don’t understand. If you pick specifics that actually make sense like that person’s example of entrances for women being shitty, then that’s fine.

      As with anything it’s about how you approach the subject. Bill Maher criticizes Islam all the damn time and he hasn’t been cancelled yet, in fact his show has been running for 20 years. The idea that you can’t criticize Islam is bunk.

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      The fuck you talking about? This is about Israel vs Hamas. We’re not here just dunking on religion. Go find an atheist board.

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    If you point to a man and say, “He hates Jews.”

    There is zero doubt in my mind that he’s a hardcore right-winger. Zero doubt.

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    It’s not totally unfunny but more than a little predictable - it would be better if the punchline was a person’s name, but while there were plenty of antisemitic communists, i can’t think of anyone famous for being both antisemitic and a communist.