• The-Gippa@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Aren’t we assuming there was incompetence to begin with!! How often has Arsenal received favoured calls … win some lose some. Arsenal and Arteta deserve to be sanctioned because it filters down to grass roots level and we end up with obnoxious parents and Mgrs attacking ref’s who do not have protection…

  • chrlatan@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Good. Your team got beaten. You lost. It happens. Refs do make mistakes, they are human, but so do players and managers.

    In the end, the refs are bound to what can be seen and, with regards to offside and out of bounce, what can be proven. Even the var cannot overturn an AR with a maybe or a most likely. It has to be proven and the curve of the ball with a downward angle is very misleading.

    In the end it is about respect for each other’s position and seriously, have you ever heard a ref give this kind of bullshit to a manager? No: that is what respect means. Looking to yourself before pointing out others and not doing this actually hurts on multiple levels.

    • it disrespects the game and all it’s participants. Even the ones that rightfully won.

    • it opens up a space for all to criticize refs on all levels; lowest youth, amateurs and professional play.

    • it is the main cause young refs leave the game causing an overall shortage and endangers overall quality

    It has to stop somewhere and his is as good a place as any. Because no ref means no game. End of story. Managers, however, are not strictly necessary.

  • crispysnails@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Firstly, I fully support Liverpool’s statement that was made after the Liverpool-Spurs match.

    However, I really have to wonder why The FA have only acted when Arsenal made a statement in support of their manager and did not do so when Liverpool did.

    Liverpool’s statement was much stronger compared to Arsenal’s and challenged the integrity of the decision making. Arsenals statement is much weaker.

    I really hope he clubs can get behind each other here and challenge this statement by the FA. Something needs to change with the officiating in the EPL and this FA statement is not it :)

  • NeonsTheory@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    They’ve got to protect people from finding out their dodgy business somehow. Code silence it is then.

  • Vulturo@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Arteta does not deserve to be fined. Period. I wish clubs chose to double down and back their managers and don’t let FA and PGMOL off so easy.

    Engaging in such blatant refereeing misdemeanours and then shutting down all criticism in this manner smacks of tyranny and fascism.

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      10 months ago

      “Praising my players for the way we played, we didn’t deserve to lose the match playing in their ground and we lose because of clear and obvious decisions. It is embarrassing, it is a disgrace, that’s what it is, a disgrace.”

      Quizzed on the PGMOL he added: "We’ve been taking it up (with the PGMOL) for months. There is too much at stake, we put in so many hours. I’m here to represent the football club and to get my team to compete at the highest level, the margins are so small, it’s a disgrace, embarrassing.

      “It is how I feel. The amount of messages we’ve sent saying this cannot continue. I’m sorry, embarrassing. I’m defending my players when I have to, I defend my job when it is not good enough. I have to be here, to say it now, it is not acceptable, too much at stake.”

      Arteta’s rant continued: "You look at the images and I don’t know how to feel. I am wasting my time, we are wasting our time. I don’t want to be in the hands of people. It is difficult enough to compete against this really good team. The way we play, the way we compete, it is embarrassing, there is too much at stake. "

      In the press briefing, he continued his frustration: “We have to talk about the result and talk about how the hell this goal stands. I feel embarrassed, I have to be the one to come in here and defend the club and ask for help because it is a disgrace that this goal is allowed.”

      Quizzed on why: "Because it is not a goal, for more than one reason, it is not a goal. Too much at stake, we put so much effort in and it is a disgrace. I feel embarrassed, I did 20 years in this country and this is nowhere near the level to describe this as the best league in the world.

      Arteta was told about Stockley Park’s lack of clips: “That makes it even worse. You just need to see one image and it is finished. If you have any doubt look at a second and if this is a goal. I don’t care what they say, it is the outcome, whatever they say it is too late.”

      The Arsenal boss was asked which aspect he was most angered with: “This is really the question? It is not a goal, it’s simple, it’s not a goal. For a goal to be allowed there are things that prior to that that are not allowed in football. In here, China, Japan, Spain, Italy, Portugal. They are not allowed.”

  • billbill1967@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I know every team has their grievance list, but Arsenal’s particular flavor is the “only ever seen it once”

    • Xhaka red vs. Brighton? a few years back for a tactical foul to stop a counterattack
    • Van Persie second yellow for kicking a ball away
    • Martinelli double yellow from the same action
    • This foul - 999 out of 1000 this is called a push (ok not only Arsenal, but extremely rare)
    • k34t0n@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Its disgraceful that you didnt mention about david luiz ‘knee tackle’. Lol.

    • Jonesy7256@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Willock being pushed into a goalkeeper by a defender who actually scores an own goal and the foul was given against Willock for hitting the keeper so goal rules out and no penalty. Only seen that once

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    10 months ago

    @GunnersGentleman since this goof site won’t let me reply properly to you, probably cos he deleted his post like a dullard.

    It’s cause people talk about them as being the worst or standards, so then you look at where that general standard is.

    Calling me stupid, while not understanding the meaning of the word subjective. You can challenge with things other than a foot.

    And another word you don’t know the meaning of, as where do I say that I can’t see why he thinks it’s a clear red.

  • Purneet@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The FA should first give the referees a two match ban for making poor calls

  • Silly_Hat_2587@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    How are referees so powerful that they cannot be criticised? Normally you see such privileges provided to the rich and powerful. They must have a influential backer.