Unpopular opinion, if you let your laptop get so disgusting the soldering shorts you deserve whatever stops working
They need to address this with a repair program. It’s so frustrating.
Why does every design flaw from Apple, no matter how minor, get a “-gate” name like it’s some world-ending controversy?
Why does every design flaw from Apple, no matter how minor, get a “-gate” name like it’s some world-ending controversy?
If it was any other PC OEM the media wouldn’t echo that article around the world.
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It’s just sensationalism. Talk to some people who own macbooks these days that came from windows laptops of the mid and late 2010s, the difference in build quality is night and day. My macbook pro didn’t cost any more than any other windows laptop I’ve ever bought and is the only one that didn’t have some catastrophic issue in the first two years of ownership (blown out speakers, frayed proprietary charging cable, broken keys, bulging battery, cracked plastic body etc).
Even in cases of design flaws I’ve never heard of someone having to pay to fix them even well outside the warranty and applecare period. Similar rampant design flaws in the world of plastic laptops just go ignored.
My macbook pro didn’t cost any more than any other windows laptop I’ve ever bought
so they didn’t have equivalent specs, okay.
because apple keeps denying that all of these flaws are not flaws but “made that way to make your life better”
so the more flaws an apple product has, the more it’s supposed to make your life magical!
if they admitted to errors, then there wouldn’t be -gate… for example, butterfly-keyboard-gate - just admit the whole thing sucks and tell the truth. That keyboard sucks.
Same as for the touchbar - you notice they don’t say anything about it. Just say “the touch bar isn’t performing the way we envisioned it, so we’re killing it” instead of saying “touchbar is the greatest thing!” but then pull support and don’t update it in the 7 years since 2016 and then kill it silently.
Can you find me an example of any other laptop manufacturer acknowledging negative things about their own products? Like an Acer representative apologizing for the shitty thermals on their $1000 gaming laptops, for example?
Why is only Apple held to this standard?
Just chiming in here, as an owner of a $2000+ when new 2017 macbook pro that apparently isn’t even being covered despite being susceptible to the same issue. It makes me feel like this investment is a waste and a ticking time bomb.
I still have a 2012 macbook pro in working condition as well, and I expect Apple products to have a long lifespan for how much they cost. Design flaws and known issues must be addressed, and Apple should be held to this higher standard because of their premium price tag and high company market cap value due to their reputation. If they lose their reputation for quality products and support they won’t be able to charge premium prices or sustain their valuation.
Both can be held to that standard. Gaming laptops are shit. Always have been
I’ve not had any issues with my Legion 7 from 2021. Been following the subreddit and Discord, doesn’t seem to be any major issues, unless I missed them.
Pretty great PC that can be moved around really easily and the 3080 performs similar to a desktop 3070. Perfect for the super bright 1440p screen it has.
I do really like the legion laptops as well. If a customer is requesting one, i begrudgingly point them to those systems.
Pretty sad outlook on solving a problem for people that cannot have it solved by a stationary PC though.
£1700 for an nightmare to repair 8GB piece of junk with thunderport ports that wear out and now dodgy screens. No thanks.
I contacted Apple Support asking for a repair under UK Consumer Laws (specifically England in my case - 6 yrs in England/Wales, 5 in Scotland). I’d already spoken to Apple Support when it first happened, and then taken it to a Genius Bar where they said it would cost a silly amount to fix.
They have asked me to send it in to them with no issues. Of course they may turn around and say it was damaged in some way and refuse… but their legal team does seem to be aware of this problem at the minute and are offering little resistance. They did say there is a longer than usual turn-around time for this issue, whether they meant *this* specific issue or not I don’t know.
Ultimately this is a design flaw issue, so it’s technically covered by UK (and EU) consumer laws. I’ll post if/when it’s resolved succesfully (or otherwise)
Louis Rossmann are reporting this kind of fail from long ago. Apple even had to recall some models in the past for the exast same problem after people report them to the FCC IIRC.
In the recall they just added sone millimeters to the cable length and solve the problem, so if this keeps happening it’s because they want to. There isn’t any something-gate, just an anti-consumer movement.
That was flexgate. This is dust particles piercing the cable.
He has also been reporting about the dust problem for a couple of years. It’s only now that it’s getting wider media coverage, probably because it’s happening to more and more people as time goes on
Good thing I saw a video about these because I’ve been looking at 2018 MBA for 350€. Then again I only need it for like a year, so it might worth the risk.
They did ask me for my receipt (I’d bought direct from apple, so I still had it thankfully), no idea if they’d honour a second-hand computer.